"You should never look for/expect happiness in this world"

by ilikecheese 32 Replies latest jw friends

  • GLTirebiter
    GLTirebiter
    "You won't find happiness in this world, and you shouldn't look for it."

    That's a self-fulfilling prophecy. If you're so convinced that you will be miserable that you don't even try to do something about it, you will indeed find nothing but misery. But when you're seeking the good in a bad situation, just making the effort improves your disposition. On one hand there is despair; on the other hope. Where in the Bible does it say "Doubt, despair and loathing: these three remain"?

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    I never found happiness in the witless religion, either. Just disappointments.

    And not just disappointments because the end didn't come when I reasonably expected it should. They were supposed to help me with the opposite sex, not groom me for Beth Hell or to go to the Value Destroyer Training School to help some congregation in the outlying regions of Nigeria or North Korea. And Jehovah never helped me in that aspect--apparently he would rather I join some missionary work or do sequestered service, regardless of which religion, than to be happy myself. Better for that Almighty Lowlife Scumbag that I waste my life at Beth Hell or in getting the witlesses to grow to 99% of some currently Muslim country in the middle of north Africa or the Middle East than get a real life myself.

    Most of the a$$emblies were also disappointments. The first one I attended was acceptable, since I was in fact learning things the first time. After that, rubbish. No more traveling more than 150 kilometers--in fact, lately most of them are right in town or within 20 km from my home. The big and great boasting sessions, at the A$$embly Hell, is roughly 20 km away. And the programs, after the first one, were all the same rubbish that I heard before. Regular boasting sessions are also rubbish--usually that "food when you need it" is "No, I DON'T want you to be happy and I MEAN it". Field circus became a drudgery that I was supposed to be wasting all my time on, not just when it was reasonable and prudent. Going along exactly with what the group wants is not my idea of fun, either.

    At least while in the world, I am not rewarding that Almighty Lowlife Scumbag for preventing me from associating with the opposite sex. I still view that he would rather I rot in Nigeria or some Muslim country in some disease-ridden, shortage- and famine stricken, war-torn country in the middle East or in North Africa than seeking personal happiness. But at least I will not be getting sent by the witlesses--and, as long as I don't associate with any Christian church, it is going to be difficult for Jehovah to usurp my life to spread some outdated, ineffective, easily rebutted message that even the grand-master evangelists Paul, Timothy, Silas, Barnabus, and the apostles (and Jesus himself) failed to lastingly spread (where are the Christians in the middle East today?). Nor do I have to pretend that things are going well when they are not--they never went well while I was in the cancer, yet I was supposed to pretend.

  • nugget
    nugget

    That is a stupid statement. As a witness he will have believed that whilst he hopes to live forever and never die many people have lived since the time of Jesus and have died. Does he seriously believe that his God was perfectly content for these people to spend their whole lives in misery and that none of them had any expectation of happiness because they weren't living in the time of the end.

    Life is what you make it with so many things to enjoy and delight in. By not seeking happiness in life then you are squandering what you have. I have a right to be happy and I fully intend to exercise that right.

  • still thinking
    still thinking

    listening to David Hasselhoff CDs!!!! Please don't do something as drastic as that!!!

    Is he aware that he is driving you to this type of desperation?

  • blondie
    blondie

    (Matthew 5:45) 45 that YOU may prove yourselves sons of YOUR Father who is in the heavens, since he makes his sun rise upon wicked people and good and makes it rain upon righteous people and unrighteous.

    I always read this scripture to show that God gives happiness, good things, to all

  • troubled mind
    troubled mind

    I was told by an Elder that it was a danger that I liked my job too much . It was a freakin part time job ,but I was doing something I liked instead of knocking on doors, and that made it dangerous .....come on and be miserable like the rest of us ! BAH

  • discreetslave
    discreetslave

    This is the type of thinking that is continually programmed into a JW.
    March 15, 2012 pg 17
    12 If we are to maintain our sense of
    urgency, we need to fight the urge to enjoy more
    of what life offers.We ought to
    work at getting “a firm hold on the real
    life.” (1 Tim. 6:18, 19) You likely have
    no doubt that everlasting life on earth
    under God’s Kingdom will provide endless
    opportunities to enjoy interesting
    activities. But for now, the opportunity
    to help others to survive Armageddon is
    unique to our time.

  • Gayle
    Gayle

    Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.
    Abraham Lincoln
    16th president of US (1809 - 1865)

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    Galatians 5:22 "fruitage of the spirit: love, JOY, peace"

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    JWs are not a happy people. They concentrate on only the bad things of life, that's why they can hardly wait for Armageddon to come and poof, for a "la-la" world to be there, just for JWs, not the other 99+% of mankind. It is warped.

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    JWs do not see a responsibility to appreciate this life NOW, to embrace the good things now with thanksgiving. JWs have a deep conflict in their human spirit.

    Years ago, when I was in process of leaving JWs, I had JW relatives from out of town, visiting a few days. The popular song then was "Don't worry, be happy!" The JWs hated that song. I loved it!

  • Scully
    Scully

    You have a JW boyfriend and he says *that* to you??

    So, what are you, chopped liver?? Doesn't he believe that your relationship is worth anything??

    I would be freaking pissed off and ready to show him the cold side of the door after a psychological back-hander like that.

  • hamsterbait
    hamsterbait

    ARE you a JW yourself??

    Are you having sex?

    If so your Boyfriend is a hypocrite with severe personality problems.

    This whole thing can only cause you grief in the long term, unless you get a lobotomy.

    Why not attend the meetings and find out for yourself what he believes in, and how it might impact your life. Go to the Elders after the meeting and ask their advice on your sexual relationship. Whether oral sex is okay, as opposed to anal or mutual masturbation. (These things are regularly dealt with in the meetings, even in the presence of little children, so it should not be an emarrassment to them. ) If the BF objects he is hiding something.

    HB

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