So what i wonder about is if it's so good for us to be forgiving why is it always okay for god to slaughter and punish for all sorts of so called sins especially killing us for questioning the morality of it's action.
Forgiving. Surely a limit even for Christians?
by punkofnice 36 Replies latest watchtower bible
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THE GLADIATOR
nancy drew “why is it always okay for god to slaughter and punish ”
This is a valid point. The God of the Bible does not forgive. He did not forgive Adam & Eve but allowed all humans from then on to be born in sin, suffering old age and death. There are many accounts of the people slaughtered by God with no suggestion of them being forgiven. Then his only begotten son was required to allow himself to be tortured to death to pay God back - whatever it was God thought he was owed.
For those who look to the Bible for guidance, the future is not orange but blood red.
Fortunately I see the Bible as a far fetched novel loosely based on a few nomads’ lives - though it’s likely they were mad; a romping yarn with no relevance to the time we presently live in.
This allows me the freedom forgive or not, as I see fit. Oh, the power!
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WTWizard
There are certain articles for which forgiveness is not reasonable. If a person does something in a mean-spirited way, and especially if this is ongoing and not just an isolated incident, there is no forgiveness. If someone (Jehovah isn't even above this) wishes to usurp the value of my life, preventing me from attracting the opposite sex just so there would be no competition from sequestered religious service or missionary work in a place like Niger, Chad, Kenya, or Iran and then expects my forgiveness, they have another thing coming. (Especially when the guilty party is named Jehovah.)
Forgiveness is also not reasonable when you were abused as a child. Usually, the abuse isn't simply a single incident. The abuse is usually a part of a pattern of mean-spiritedness, with the abuser seeking to ruin the child's life. Sexual abuse often fits this--doing that rubbish solely because you desire to ruin the child's life deserves more punishment than the sexual abuse itself would. Physical and emotional abuse that is intended to ruin a child's life doesn't deserve forgiveness, either--when the motive is to ruin the child's life and the abuse is ongoing, it matters not what kind of abuse. Forgiveness is not appropriate.
And, if Jehovah will not forgive you because you wouldn't forgive a person that fits the above categories, then Jehovah is being mean-spirited himself and does not deserve anything at all.
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tec
Forgiveness can be almost impossible without sincere regret and apology on behalf of the one who wronged you. Not impossible. Time, as well as joy and peace in your own life, can prompt you to leave behind negative feelings or animosity toward anyone.
In the case of someone who cares nothing for what they did to hurt you, then it is best to move on for your own sake, and leave them to God (if you have faith in God) as 3rdgen did above, and the authorities of this world.
It is not loving to allow a murderer to wander around free to murder again, but if that person changes, repents and is sincere about asking for your forgiveness (even though they realize that they do not deserve it) then it is loving to release them from the burden of that guilt. At the same time, this releases you from the burden of carrying around anger and hatred.
Peace,
Tammy
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THE GLADIATOR
Tammy - In the words of Jack Nicholson in ‘As Good As It Gets.’
‘You make me want to be a better man.'
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dog is god
I feel that rapists and pedophiles should be killed. Put them to sleep and enable God to judge them. Our forgiveness of them is irrevelent.