Three Strikes "YOUR OUT!" (page 2)

N.drew

Jehovah's Witnesses make sin (lying) their second nature.

(Thus making themselves judges I quess because their sin is OK, but my sin is not OK).

Taking Christ's rightful place and lying is a sin.

Enslaving human beings is a sin.

Do you not see a pattern here Twitch?

Jehovah's Witnesses say "come with us. We are going to make Earth a paradise".

Organized crime says to the pretty but poor ladies and gents of (pick your country) and say "come with us. The USA is a paradise". But it's not.

How is this related in any way to your OP?

They lie but they live with a good conscience . Actually they teach their idea of a good conscience is the ONLY way to a good conscience. SEE? I am introducing the possibility that they are at fault for leaving an easy way for badness. They suffer so the wicked man won't suffer. You said so yourself in your post;

Because it's not sin to them; that concept exists in the mind of the believer.

Also, if they're happy and satisfied, what's the problem exactly? Wouldn't a god of love want his children to be happy?

Even if it is sarcasm, it's true for some people.

caliber

There is a distinction between one who sinned in ignorance, and another who sinned in defiance .

Conscience alone should never be regarded as the authority that determines what is sin. It is not a person's ignorant conscience, but God's word, which determines what is sin.

however person should not be allowed to disturb the consciences of others

By observing this principle , we avoid what otherwise becomes a tyranny of the ignorant conscience. We call that tyranny "legalism". The very thing that characterises legalism, is that it makes people think they are committing sins when they have not.

Happiness is finding out the true meaning of the word GRACE

N.drew

I have wondered why people who make sin their second nature seem happy and are perfectly satisfied.

if they're happy and satisfied, what's the problem exactly? Wouldn't a god of love want his children to be happy

I'm talking about Organized Crime and Evil sovereigns. People who traffic drugs and human souls. How can they live with a good conscience?

How is this related in any way to your OP?

N.drew

Loyal Watchtower adherents believe that a good conscience can be had despite the fact they believe lies which is a sin.

How are they different from the people who commit gross sins but have a "good" cinscience?

Have they become judges?

N.drew

Is there a trend?

I see a trend of people acting out crazy stuff that reflects no respect for self and others.

Who is setting the trend?

Twitch

Jehovah's Witnesses make sin (lying) their second nature.

(Thus making themselves judges I quess because their sin is OK, but my sin is not OK).

So by judging them as sinners, that makes you what exactly? How is what you believe now make you any better than any other christian, JW or otherwise? Or any other believer for that matter?

Taking Christ's rightful place and lying is a sin.

Enslaving human beings is a sin.

Do you not see a pattern here Twitch?

You all think your particular jesus is better than another's. You just traded your jesus doll for a kinder, gentler one more to your liking and at the same time, denounce other beliefs as false idol worshippers. Do YOU see a pattern here?

Jehovah's Witnesses say "come with us. We are going to make Earth a paradise".

Organized crime says to the pretty but poor ladies and gents of (pick your country) and say "come with us. The USA is a paradise". But it's not.

Actually, all believers of the christ god believe he'll make it all good one day, whether in this world or the next, so what's the difference really? Semantics.

How is this related in any way to your OP?

They lie but they live with a good conscience . Actually they teach their idea of a good conscience is the ONLY way to a good conscience. SEE? I am introducing the possibility that they are at fault for leaving an easy way for badness. They suffer so the wicked man won't suffer. You said so yourself in your post;

Did you knowingly lie to people about christ when you were a JW? I take it you think they do but it's fairly obvious to anyone who's been one that this is not the case. The average jojo believes what they have is truth. So do you.

I don't follow how I agreed with anything you've said.

Also, if they're happy and satisfied, what's the problem exactly? Wouldn't a god of love want his children to be happy?

Even if it is sarcasm, it's true for some people.

Of course it is and not just for christians. Or do you think only christians can be truly happy and satisfied?

N.drew

all believers of the christ god believe he'll make it all good one day,

I believe in Christ Jesus Messiah Joshua son of Mary and Joseph God's son but I don't believe "he'll make it all good one day".

Or do you think only christians can be truly happy and satisfied?

I am sure you don't know how to read Twitch

N.drew

Why would the Christ say " Therefore consider carefully how you listen. Whoever has will be given more; whoever does not have, even what he thinks he has will be taken from him." if he was "going to make it all good one day"?

Twitch

Why would the Christ say "Therefore consider carefully how you listen. Whoever has will be given more; whoever does not have, even what he thinks he has will be taken from him." if he was "going to make it all good one day"?

I don't know. Why don't you tell me your particular belief on it?

I think it's a safe bet that the majority of christians believe in heaven or the afterlife, yes?

Or do you think only christians can be truly happy and satisfied?

I am sure you don't know how to read Twitch

You mean read your mind obviously because you sure can't write, lol. But I can answer a direct question at least.

N.drew

You are making a bridge where there isn't one. Believingthere exists a heaven and an afterlife does not equal "going to make it all good one day". How good or bad it will be depends on how we listen, learn and obey.

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