1914: Still Important to Watchtower in 2012

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  • Phizzy
    Phizzy

    1925 and 1975 were not the basis for their claim to be God's Oganization. They could let them fade.

    1914 is different, they are stuck with it, they have no other claim to authority.

    Time is their enemy on this, the further in the past it becomes the more JW's will ask "Wot's 1914 all abaht den ?" and as we know it doesn't stand up to any scrutiny as a teaching, it isn't even a good lie.

    A good lie is close to the truth, and sounds plausible, the 1914 tosh is neither.

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    Anyone still alive in the year 2154 should see another generation added to the string. Just string them like Christmas lights, and you can make the scam go on forever.

  • outsmartthesystem
    outsmartthesystem

    they believe their own lies.

    I believe this. I think that the GB simply HAS TO BELIEVE. They have Roger Clemens Syndrome. Just like he has truly convinced himself that he has never taken steroids.....they have convinced themselves that they HAVE to be right. Even if it involved covering over errors, quoting out of context and suppressing evidence. These things MUST be done in the name of theorcratic warfare. It is fucked up but I think they've truly convinced themselves of this.

  • james_woods
    james_woods

    Every time that 1914 comes up - the Witnesses need to be reminded that they DID NOT PROPHETICALLY PREDICT WW1.

    The predicted that Jesus would visibly return to earth in 1914.

    When that did not happen, they changed their story to say that he invisibly started ruling in heaven.

    Then, they further said that adult people living in 1914 would see the literal end of the world at armageddon.

    When that did not happen, they changed their story to say the generations overlap.

  • outsmartthesystem
    outsmartthesystem

    I think DOC is right. They will work to continue to express the significance of 1914 and 607. because without those dates they have nothing. But they will link them together less and less until one day....there is no link whatsoever.....the the believe in the dates INDIVIDUALLY manages to stand on its own. The masses will still all believe whole-heartedly in the significance of those dates but without realizing the importance of linking them together. It will be just like how they unlinked the "generations" from the gentile times teaching.

  • james_woods
    james_woods
    I think DOC is right. They will work to continue to express the significance of 1914 and 607. because without those dates they have nothing. But they will link them together less and less until one day....there is no link whatsoever.....the the believe in the dates INDIVIDUALLY manages to stand on its own. The masses will still all believe whole-heartedly in the significance of those dates but without realizing the importance of linking them together. It will be just like how they unlinked the "generations" from the gentile times teaching.

    That is extremely likely, IMHO. I would be willing to bet money on the theory that hardly 1 out of 100 witnesses could even begin to explain how they got to the year 1914 from the year 607 BCE in the first place. Practically none of them are even aware that 1874 used to be a Russell prophetic year as well.

  • Phizzy
    Phizzy

    So what do they have to "sell" the relgion as God's Organization, Spokesman, Channel etc etc ?

    What makes them different to the hundreds of other end-time sects out there ?

  • Refriedtruth
    Refriedtruth

    The 1914 end times Watchtower creed plagiarized from William Miller algorithm is by the Watchtower's OWN admission their central doctrine (creed).

    Most all belief systems have a creed "Christendom" has the trinity as their creed , Islam has Muhammad,Mormons got Jesus came to America Joseph Smith and golden plates.

    The Unitarian Universalism specifically advertise they are the church with no creed (anything goes)

    Well 1914 is the creed foundation doctrine that in the old days they proudly proclaimed that they were the ONLY religion who advertise advertise advertise the heralders of Christ presence.

    The primary justification for being labeled evil slave was by failing the 1914 loyalty oath.

    I believe they will abandon it and it will be the same to outsiders and us 'apostates as the Catholic Church renouncing Mary saying she never existed.The JW will not miss a beat it will just be new light from Jehovah's progressive 'visible' organization.

    A true cult.

  • Refriedtruth
    Refriedtruth

    So,what will they do?

    Exactly what they have been embellishing last 10 years emphasis on nice and Nobel God's Kingdom.It's the fall back position good ole generic safe God's Kingdom.

    Don't you want God's Kingdom in your life?And by comparison the other Churches appeal is ,don't you want to get to heaven?

  • Amelia Ashton
    Amelia Ashton

    Talking to an active JW his take on dates are that they are not that important and certainly not something to study. The most important thing is not questioning the faithful and discreet slave and being obedient and definitely not to question their authority. (Remember Korah)

    That is the only thing that matters to survive Armagedon. I don't think even Christ's death is relevant for the "other sheep" now, just that they support the GB.

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