1914: Still Important to Watchtower in 2012

by leavingwt 77 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Londo111
    Londo111

    They might be able to get away with throwing out Daniel 4 and 607 BC...and teach 1914 as a Matthew 24 a Signs-Only Fulfillment. Notice in this article, they point out to what they view as signs first, and then they state chronology second.

    They could just view that the Bible Students predicted 1914 as a result of Providence, and how they derived at date of irrelevant. I don't want to give them ideas, but that would be the smartest strategy. Other than coming clean.

  • leavingwt
    leavingwt

    Londo111: For more than 90% of the members, they can get away with ANYTHING related to doctrine. If you've read Hassan, you know why this is the case.

  • Londo111
    Londo111

    I wish it wasn't true. But it is. It's very easy to think doctrine-only sometimes and forget about the cult aspect.

  • Refriedtruth
    Refriedtruth

    My clan consist of 4 gens of JW both sides maternal paternal the first gen grandparents are deceased.

    I was usually the anchor alpha supporter until my dfing 20 years ago now my twin JW brother is and he has made it clear if I want to speak to my family I must never talk negative about JW.

    That's it

  • redvip2000
    redvip2000

    I agree that for most JWs the dates don't really matter that much.

    I have shown this to a few JWs including my mother, and the answer is that maybe some dates are wrong, but that their religion is still the best out of all of them

    Most JWs cannot see the big picture. The way they reason this out is something like " Well all other religions believe in Hell and Trinity and Soul, and i know for a fact that is not true, so this must be the truth"

  • possible-san
    possible-san

    redvip2000.

    Most JWs cannot see the big picture. The way they reason this out is something like " Well all other religions believe in Hell and Trinity and Soul, and i know for a fact that is not true, so this must be the truth"

    I think that that is their typical "mind control", IMO.

    According to my observation, they almost know nothing about other religions.
    In fact, what do they know about the Japanese religions?

    In Japan, a certain ancient Buddhism priest (Nichiren) taught that the "Hell" is a figurative expression.
    But JWs misunderstand the word "Hell", and interpret literally.

    But even people who speak English do not always interpret literally the word "Hell."
    For example, "I like you a hell of a lot", etc.

    Moreover, they know nothing about the "Trinity."
    Therefore, they always use "straw man."
    Also in the Trinity doctrine, the "Son" is different from the "Father."

    possible

  • yknot
    yknot

    While I usually post how the WTS can 'modernize/mormonize' and last another 100 yrs or whatever.....

    Cedar's comment has given me opportunity to suggest an exit strategy for the WTS.

    2034 is perfect, they don't have to change a thing, just let this barge slowly ground itself.

    Sell off the rest of the property, claim it is going into the world wide work, remote lands requiring much more funds to sneak in the 'truth'...

    Make big demands on culty allegiance and donations....

    Get the money out of the US and into a safe area where it can be reinvested for personal gain.....

    Tout without fail that Oct 31 2034 will be the END! A very special edition of a OCT 31ST WT, the final epub "The end has come ...... we thank all our loyal readers" To whom it may concern the stockholders on the morning of Oct 31, 2034 unanimously agreed to halt all production and funtion of the WT.

    While the thought of greedy stockholders continuing to live off the invested donations of the many victims of the WT pyramid is disheartening.... I would gladly trade it for them continuing to claim victims with this never ending farce......

  • Refriedtruth
    Refriedtruth

    Robbing William Miller's Grave, origin of the 1914 dogma

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/203744/1/Robbing-William-Millers-Grave-Part-3-The-man-who-changed-YOUR-LIFE

    One of at least 3 threads Terry has up on William Miller who started it all

  • tornapart
    tornapart

    Interesting point Yknot... I think that greed will come into it somewhere. All this property in Brooklyn being sold up and them getting involved with Hedge funds. What if they make some dodgy investments, in the financial climate atm it could all come crashing down and the whole lot finished overnight..then where will all the R&F be without their leaders, printing works etc...

  • Billy the Ex-Bethelite
    Billy the Ex-Bethelite

    Paragraph 10 of the original post leaves out important JW dogma. The "great tribulation" needs to happen with the destruction of false religion and a powerful advance by the King of the North. How can they just drop those teachings and hang it all on their crazy "over-lapping generation since 1914"?

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