by jerome 14 Replies latest watchtower bible
I hate to be starting another topic for this reason but i would really like an anwser to this question.
Jws' use the example of the prophet Nathan telling king David to to build his temple but then God told him that it wouldent be built in his time.
Any rebutals to this reasoning?
What were the circumstances behind this happening in the first place?
Why can this not be used to explain the "mistaken expections" of the watchtower in the past and thus their being branded false prophets?
ahhh well I guess we found someone who's afraid of Simon and his two topic limit
ohh sorry what was the question?
Ven
"Injustice will continue until those who are not affected by it are as outraged as those who are."
HA-HA!Hey Venice,he`s got more than that to be worried about.I wonder how many personas Simon will delete?..LOL.....OUTLAW
Thread hijackers...
Where do they get the nerve?
This has sooo much to do with what i asked.
If you cant contribute why dont you just leave it alone?
The Bible is a two edged sword wield it for evil and it you may get hurt.
Sheesh Jerome chill, at least it's bring it back to the top again!!!!
Just making a lil remark, perhaps if you weren't so hostile people would feel more inclined to reply!
Ven
"Injustice will continue until those who are not affected by it are as outraged as those who are."
Jerome,
You should always quote chapter and verse. In this case, the reference seems to be the parallel accounts at 2 Samuel 7:1-17 and 1 Chronicles 17:1-15. The idea of building the temple was David's, not Nathan's. Nathan merely acquiesed, and said: "Go, do all that is in your heart, for the Lord is with you." But that very night God told Nathan to tell David that Solomon would build the temple.
It's too bad God doesn't tell the Governing Body right away when they get it into their heads to make up stupid rules and regulations that affect the lives of six million people.
I'm just answering this for practice, you know. They say that you're a troll.
Justin
I dident mean you Ven
I meant this guy who wont just get off my case.
He wants someone to kiss his a$$.
Why dont he bend over backwards and do it himself.
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What does this have to do with Nathan?
The Bible is a two edged sword wield it for evil and it you may get hurt.
Thanks for anwsering it.
It dosent really matter if i'm a troll or not once asking this question helped someone. As far as i know that is the purpose of this board.
I dont know how much longer i will be here anyway. My purpose was never really to fit-in. I'm not as much a survior as any of you are, i wasn't hurt directly or nearly as bad as most of you were, in fact, theres hope for me still, as unlikely as it is.
This board has been mean to me yes, but while i was here i learned alot. From pratically the first day i got here. Well that dosent matter now does it.
Dont worry someday mabe you wont have this troll to worry about except for the special guest appearence.
Thaks again. It was of tremendous help to me.
The Bible is a two edged sword wield it for evil and it you may get hurt.
The Watchtower is really thrashing this one to death. Pay attention kiddies; a quiz will follow.
A "Prophecy" according to "Reasoning From the Scriptures" (Watchtower 1985; 1989)
an inspired message; a revelation of the divine will or purpose.
1) a prediction of something to come
2) inspired moral teaching
3) an expression of a divine command or judgement.
What Nathan said does not fit any of the above statments. He was giving a personal opinion or belief, based on his own personal observations. And David did actually contribute to the building of the temple. He laid up the money, obtained much of the building materials, and made personal contacts necessary for obtaining whatever else was needed; he raised and trained Solomon for the task and I believe (without looking it up this minute)he had something to do with the architectural plans.
How many of the stones for the temple do you think Solomon actually set in place with his own hands anyway? If you read the account carefully and with an open mind, David had at least as much to do with the building of the temple than Solomon did. Solomon just got the credit.
So what Nathan said did come true anyway.
hope that helps Jerome.
incidently, this definition of 'prophecy is a convenient change from earlier times. In the book "Harp of God", 1921, Rutherford states:
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16 Prophecy, which is true, is a statement of facts and events foretold to take place at some future time. Otherwise stated, prophecy is history written before it transpires.
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most dictionaries agree with Rutherford's definition much more so than the Watchtower's.
You can ask why this 'change in definition' hasn't occurred untill AFTER many failed prophecies, and many lies about prophecies. (For example, Jesus' invisible presence was in 1874 in this book;). It was all well and good to say "Oh we made mistakes and had wrong expectations; but then ask why they LIED in their literature about it and do notas of this day admit it.
Did Nathan LIE about his 'mistake'?
1)What is the secularly accepted definition of "prophecy"?
2)What is the Society's definition of "prophecy"?
3)Who was Nathan? what does the Watchower say is Nathan's most notable claim to fame today?
4)What did you have for dinner last night?
5)Is this essay inspired of God? And if so, give the Scriptural proof. And if not, give Scriptural proof. If undecided, give Scriptural proof. If you change your mind, get 80 proof.
(((((((((((Jerome))))))))))))
In 1975 a crack team of publishers was sentenced to death by a judicial commiteee. They promptly escaped from the cult and now live life on the run. If you have a problem ... and if you can find them ... maybe you can contact the A--postate Team"
But that very night God told Nathan to tell David that Solomon would build the temple.It's too bad God doesn't tell the Governing Body right away when they get it into their heads to make up stupid rules and regulations that affect the lives of six million people.
God didn't tell Nathan either! Nathan just said he did. Or do you really believe God came and spoke words to Nathan????
