When does the Lord "arrive"?

by Alfred 12 Replies latest watchtower bible

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  thetrueone

  NEVER it was all a story expressed by some ancient people who were endeavored to create a sense of valuable reverence to the god they worshiped.

  Sorry JWS
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  therevealer

  *** w04 3/15 p. 7 The Lord's Evening Meal-How Observed? ***
  Anointed Christians would commemorate Christ's death "until he arrives." This observance would continue until Jesus' arrival to receive his anointed followers into heaven by a resurrection to spirit life during his "presence." (1 Thessalonians 4:14-17) This harmonizes with Christ's words to the 11 loyal apostles: "If I go my way and prepare a place for you, I am coming again and will receive you home to myself, that where I am you also may be."-John 14:3.

  would this be like someone saying "my presence at the party was observed by my drunken demeanor, but then when I arrived all hell broke loose"??

  LOL
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  Larsinger58

  So what the f**k is the Watchtower trying to say here???

  They are saying they don't know WTF they are talking about here. This is a critical point about the Memorial. Everybody knows when Christ arrives he ends that celebration. It is only to be kept until he arrives and then it ends once he arrives! Right? !!! So the celebration is technically invalid since 1914. That's #1.

  #2 is that ALL of the anointed go to heaven at the same time. No one gets to heaven before anyone else. That's clear. The WTS doesn't understand this, thinking some are up in heaven right now and others are waiting to dye. How awkward as you clearly observe. So here's that scripture:

  1 Thess 4:17 Afterward we the living who are surviving will, TOGETHER with them, be caught away in clouds to meet the Lord in the air."

  See that? All of them together go to heaven at the same time. No one preceeds the other. In fact, Paul specifically says that just before this in verse 15 "...those who survive to the presence of the Lord shall in no way precede those who have fallen asleep in death."

  So the WTS is f**king clueless in this regard, so what actually is the Bible teaching? Simply this:

  The 1st resurrection occurs before the second coming occurs. All are resurrected first into physical bodies via living anointed ones. This makes the 1st resurrection invisible, but most importantly, in the flesh. Thus those resurrected are in the flesh along with those still alive when Christ arrives. They all then await Armageddon and then begin ruling in the earth for 1000 years. After that, Satan is let loose for a short while then cast into the lake of fire. After that, JUDGMENT DAY occurrs where all the rest of the dead, both righteous and unrighteous come to life to be judged.

  Then, basically, after all their work is done on the earth, they then get transformed into spirit beings all at the same time.

  Thus this is another example proving the current GB is now in total spiritual darkness and have been abadoned by Jehovah and Christ.

  I know the idea that resurrected ones being "sown" into living bodies of other elect ones alive today is a very difficult concept. But 1 Corinthians 15 clearly stipulates this. The 2nd coming occurred in 1992 so the 1st resurrection has already taken place. Everybody is in the flesh now, including Christ himself. So that's how it works. Since passover of 1993 the Memorial officially ended. After the millennium and Judgment Day, all the elect (144,000 Jews and 1,296,000 gentiles; 1,440,000 total) will then be transformed together into their incorruptible, spiritual bodies.

  This idea by the WTS that some are now up in heaven while others are awaiting their prize is just another false teaching by the f**king false prophet.

  That's where we are now. All prophesied in advance and now a reality.

  LS