GOD Who or What is it?
by frankiespeakin 30 Replies latest watchtower bible
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thetrueone
A simple and honest answer to this question ....
It was all a story expressed by some ancient people who were endeavored to create a sense of valuable reverence to the god they worshiped.
In other words stories made out of bullshit and ignorance.
Just about all the ancients told stories of their many gods, so this is not exactly surprising.
There are billions of people on earth right now that are hating one anther and believing other people's bullshit from the past .
What a remarkable accomplished for humanity is it not ?
This guy in the video is a charlatan selling books and reaping money, that being the case does anyone really expect him to be totally honest ?
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Sulla
The ancient Jewish tradition is that God gave his name to us in a very odd sort of non-name: he who is. The development, of course, has been substantial since. But the core idea was actually expressed well by St. Anselm in his famous proof, the general idea that God is being itself.
It isn't easy for JWs and XJWs to grasp this idea, raised as we were on a very simplistic idea of -- to borrow the term -- a sky wizard. But, within the Christian thinking, God isn't a sort of being, really. He isn't the greatest thing among a universe filled with other things. He's that than which nothing greater can be conceived.
To see how far from the Sky Wizard idea that is, you just have to work through the statement. The Sky Wizard and my sofa together must be greater than the Sky Wizard. So, in this understanding, the Sky Wizard isn't God. God is the thing that is not made greater by addition and is, therefore, being itself. Hence the non-name.
It's also probably wrong to ascribe attributes to God, the way we did when we were JWs. We used to say that God has main attributes of love, justice, wisdom, and power. But this is thinking about it wrongly, I'd say. God isn't a thing to which attributes are added. St. John speaks of God as being love, not as an entity that has lots of love or that shows love, but love itself.
That's an enormous distance from caricatures offered by atheists and, to be fair, lots of Christians.
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Band on the Run
John Lennon was clear, "God is a concept by which we measure our pain."
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thetrueone
St. John speaks of God as being love, not as an entity that has lots of love or that shows love, but love itself.
Yes thats why he protected Adam and Eve from Satan the Devil and why he kills so many humans ..Ie. the flood of Noah, Armageddon .
I think I'm going to show my love for fellow man by killing at least one human, I'm sure god will approve.
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sooner7nc
God is Chemical. Brain chemical more specifically.
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Sulla
Well, now the Flood didn't really happen, right? And who says Armageddon means people die? That's the JWs and other fundamentalist groups, right? So, we want to try to move away from a) a childish understanding of God and b) a childish response to the childish understanding. That's what I'm trying to say.
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Tater-T
but why do we have to have any understand of this GOD thing... what value does it really add to humanity..
Seeing the universe now as an atheist.. has far greater value to me now... life is much more precious ...
TT