Wow, not seen this before.... (page 2)

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When you believe that the solution to real life problems is for God to come wipe out the human race it tends to screw up your world view.

Alfred

Billy... I love that analogy... you hit the nail on the head...

On the other hand, this will go right over the head of most JWs...

Amelia Ashton

Brilliant! Satan as a janitor is pure genius.

Certainly gives a bit of perspective on how the whole sanctify his great name doctrine is just plain stoopid. Meanwhile we suffer!

Chariklo

What am I missing? I went to the link but can't see the bit you mean. Sorry.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Chariklo, It's at the top of the page.

Az: "Billy thats a great description . I will cut and paste that one if its ok with you."

Help yourself. Glad you like it.

Watchtower certainly struggles with the reality of God's cold-heartedness.

*** tr chap. 8 pp. 67-69 pars. 7-9 Why Has God Permitted Wickedness Until Our Day? ***
7 Satan’s false charges against God may be illustrated, to a certain extent, in a human way. Suppose a man having a large family is accused by one of his neighbors of many false things about the way he manages his household. Suppose the neighbor also says that the family members have no real love for their father but only stay with him to obtain the food and material things he gives them. How might the father of the family answer such charges? If he simply used violence against the accuser, this would not answer the charges. Instead, it might suggest that they were true. But what a fine answer it would be if he permitted his own family to be his witnesses to show that their father was indeed a just and loving family head and that they were happy to live with him because they loved him! Thus he would be completely vindicated.—Proverbs 27:11; Isaiah 43:10.

Watchtower had to abandon illustrations like this because Jehovah would be more like the father that after being accused, decided to abandon his family. To "prove that he was a good father," he threw the children out of the home where they had to fend for themselves. All of these children eventually die, and their grandchildren have never experienced life in the home of the father. It's now supposedly 6000 years later, and 99.9% of the offspring have no idea of this grudge match between God and Satan.

The other huge flaw with the illustration is that ancient Israel should be the perfect example of how "God's household" would be run. It's easy to read the OT and see that Israel was plagued with war, "apostasy", and corruption. Jehovah was such a great "reader of hearts" that he picked Saul as the first king. Disaster. King David liked Jonathan better than his wives, and later there was the whole adultery/murder thing. Solomon was given the gift of wisdom, and his wisdom directed him away from Jehovah. To illustrate Jehovah as the father of a large family proves that he cannot manage his household.

Disillusioned Lost-Lamb

Remember they don't care!

The gobbling body-snatchers don't care what's between the pages as long as the money keeps rollin' in and the magazines keep goin' out they're golden.

'nuff said.

cofty

Billy - thanks for that analogy, its perfect!

Wow, not seen this before....