Is there ANY JW belief/doctrine that has remained the same from start to now?

by journey-on 42 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • FWFranz
    FWFranz

    Thanks Black Sheep. I think this particular quote sums it up fairly well.

    "It is undoubtedly proper enough for us to address petitions to our Redeemer and Advocate, who loved us and gave himself for us....Although we are nowhere instructed to make petitions to him, it evidently could not be improper so to do; for such a course is nowhere prohibited, and the disciples worshiped him."Zion's Watch Tower 1892 May 15 p.157

    It was of interest to know that the idea of worshipping Jesus was not done away with completely until 1954. I was not aware of that fact.

    FWFranz....

  • binadub
  • jwfacts
    jwfacts

    Teaching that:

    • Jesus Christ isn't mediator for "Great Crowd", only for 144,000.
    • 144,000 are the only ones going to heaven
    • There is no hell
    • There is no afterlife (exept for 144,000)

    That is not not actually correct, as these most of these teaching did change.

    Russell taught that the Great Crowd are in heaven with the 144,000. It was not until Rutherford that the Great Crowd made it onto earth.

    The mediator teaching has changed numerous times. Originally Russell said it was not for the 144,000, now the WTS teaches it is only for the 144,000

  • binadub
    binadub

    Sorry, I forgot I have to log in with Mozilla Foxfire if I want to post.

    The WT teachings about hell, soul and trinity are not unique to JWs, as well as Michael/Jesus.

    The one unique WT teaching that has persisted through Russellites, Bible Students and Jehovah's Witnesses from the beginning is the "Gentile Times ended in 1914" teaching. Originally the Gentile Times end was supposed to be Armageddon in 1914, with Christ's parousia having occurred in 1974 (40 years earlier--a generation). When Armageddon didn't occur, the teaching remained that the Gentile Times had ended in 1914 as evidenced by "the Great War" (WWI). It was not until 1943 that the teaching about Christ's parousia was officially moved from 1874 to 1914 according to the 1973 book by Fred Franz, "God's Kingdom of a Thousand Yeas Has Approached," pg.209, para.55, where he refers to the 1943 book "The Truth Shall Make You Free" as officially revising their chronology of Christ return. However, either way, it remained that the Gentile Times had ended in 1914.

    The claim was that only the Russellites/Bible Students/Jehovah's Witnesses "witnessed" Christ's return and was therefore appointed by Christ to be his "Faithful and Discreet Slave" to spread that "good news" that Christ had returned and set up his Kingdom and that generation would see the end of this "old world" (last generation). The "good news of the Kingdom" was that Christ had returned in 1914, set up his kingdom, and if you joined them and preached the "good news" you would never die. You would very soon "survive Armageddon into God's new world." THAT WAS "the good news of the Kingdom" to preach.

    JWs now claim they are the only ones preaching "the good news." Ask them now what the "good news" is and they are generally stumbled to give a good answer. They don't know. In earlier years JWs were well aware of what the WT "good news" teaching was. Not any more. They don't even have a good definition of a "generation."

    Nevertheless, the reason they have resisted the evidence that refutes their flawed historical chronology (607BC-1914AD) is that their primary teaching of having been appointed by Christ as His F&DS is tied to it being because they "witnessed" His invisible return in 1914 and were found preaching that "good news." All these years later, no Armageddon, they haven't figured out how they can change the root 1914 Gentile Times doctrine and still claim to have been Christ's F&DS all these years. The new generation of JWs would probably never notice, but there are still a lot of older ones who would remember.

    ~Binadub

  • binadub
    binadub

    Sorry again, a typo. I meant to say Christ was supposed to have returned in 1874, not 1974.
    Clumsy fingers.

    ~Binadub

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut

    I think even the doctrines that are basically the same have been "tweaked" to be more in line with cult-thinking, except for the one that is already fully cult-thinking approved"

    Jehovah's Witnesses are about being RIGHT and that makes everyone else WRONG.

  • 00DAD
    00DAD

    So what is left that hasn't changed since Russell's time:

    • No Hell
    • No Immortality of the Soul

    That's not too much

  • jwfacts
    jwfacts

    So what is left that hasn't changed since Russell's time:

    • No Hell
    • No Immortality of the Soul

    That's not too much

    Correct, and those concepts, referred to as Soul Sleep, were taken from the Second Adventists. There were not provided to directly Russell as Jehovah's spirit directed spokesman.

  • binadub
    binadub

    Gentile times ended in 1914. Consistent teaching from the beginning.

    ~Binadub

  • maksym
    maksym

    Dear JWfacts,

    Thank you for posting that information on the Trinity. I never knew this. I think this is good to know if we want to show the changes that have been made to JW's in the future.

    Peace

    Maksym

Share this

Google+
Pinterest
Reddit