Has anybody gotten a copy of that super secret elder school book? (page 2)

Amelia Ashton

It allows those in possession of them to feel superior to those who don't.

I cannot think of any other reason.

blond-moment

Ding Ding Ding...tells Amelia what she has won. That is it.

00DAD

"everything that is in there is in the literature, it's not secret"

This is COMPLETELY UNTRUE!

According to the new Shepherd the Flock of God book, it is apparently now permissible for known child abusers to be recommended as elders as long as the "sin" was years in the past:

"For example, the sin may involve past child abuse, and this would likely disqualify him for years." - Shepherd the Flock of God, p. 38 (2010)

Note that this potential "disqualification" is only "likely" and could only be "for years". I don't think you're going to find THAT in the R&F editions of the WT or Awake!

Hmmm, Shepherding the flock takes on new meaning!

00DAD

In fact, it looks even worse if one reads the paragraphs in context :

19. If it comes to light or an appointed brother confesses that he has committed a disfellowshipping offense years in the past: The body of elders may determine he can continue to serve if the following is true: The immorality or other serious wrongdoing occurred more than a few years ago, and he is genuinely repentant, recognizing that he should have come forward immediately when he sinned. (Perhaps he has even confessed to his sin, seeking help with his guilty conscience.) He has been serving faithfully for many years, has evidence of God's blessing, and has the respect of the congregation.
20. If the sin occurred before he was appointed as an elder or a ministerial servant, the elders will need to take into consideration the fact that he should have mentioned this possible impediment to his being qualified when elders interviewed him just prior to announcing his appointment. Moreover, the nature of the sin may reflect greatly on his qualifications to serve. For example, the sin may involve past child abuse, and this would likely disqualify him for many years. - Shepherd The Flock Of God, p. 38 - Emphasis added

Another example which proves it is a lie that nothing in the elder's manual is secret is the fact that the entire set of procedures for Judicial Hearings are NOT published anywhere else. There is NO way that a typical R&F publisher could ever know the procedures prior to a hearing.

For an thought provoking discussion of that subject check out this thread:

Judicial Hearing Procedures of Jehovah's Witnesses are Bible Based

Amelia Ashton

evidence of God's blessing,

What evidence would that be?

00DAD

Amelia Ashton: What evidence would that be?

You'd have to ask the authors of the STFOG book, whoever they are. I'm just quoting!!!

Disillusioned Lost-Lamb

Amelia you beat me to it.

I was going to mention the superiority complex these books create.

Kinda like, "HA HA I've got a secret boook and yooouuu dooon't, NIENER NIENER NIENER!"

stuckinamovement

Yes I was assigned one for several months right before the 2011 Km school, and then had to return it after I resigned. Thanks to the wonderful internet I now have an electronic copy.

SIAM

Amelia Ashton

Oodad, I know there isn't any!

Has anybody gotten a copy of that super secret elder school book?

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