so that's your basis. I think......
remember that the word translated there is different in other bibles. One is orderly. Do u think orderly is the same as chronological? If so, let's see your basis for this
Blatant Contradiction in new Watchtower
by The Searcher 14 Replies latest watchtower bible
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Lore
Matthew does not mention Judas leaving at all.
Mark does not mention Judas leaving at all.
Luke does not mention Judas leaving at all, and in fact states that he was there AFTER the passing of the emblems.
John DOES mention Judas leaving early, but does not say when it took place in relation to the passing of the emblems.
Also it's worth mentioning that, according to JW dates, John was written a good 30 years after the other 3 gospels were completed.
So until then, nobody would have even known that Judas left at all. Let alone before the meal.
Also the word used for 'logical'. If it's not Chronological then what the heck is it? How is it more logical to put Judas at the table after the passing of the emblems if it's important that he was NOT there?
Looking at other translations it sure seems like he's talking about putting them in order based on TIME, not some other unspecified definition of 'logical'. The greek word used was: Kathexes seems to be talking about chronological order to me, if not, I'm honestly pretty confused about what he could have meant.
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wha happened?
who knows, but the events are out of chronological order. And it's not just the word logical. Look at other bible translations, they use different verbiage
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steve2
I don't see any contradiction at all. If logical and chronological were synonyms, the Watchtower would be guilty of contradiction. But they are not refering to the same unit of logic:
Logical simply means that there is a reasonable, well argued explanation for the way something is presented: it is based on reason. Chronological,. on the other hand, merely presents events in the order they occurred: First this happended, then that and next this and so on.
It is conceivable that an author did not present events in strict chronological order but there was some reasonble, that is logical, explanation for what the author did.
Of course, both logical and chronological are neither here nor there when it comes to ascertaining the truth or otherwise of an account. An account can be absolutely logical but false and truth can be presented in a convoluted manner with an out of order chronology but still be the truth.
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slimboyfat
This thread does not deliver.