by Chariklo 63 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
Is it your belief that James, John and Peter could just by ANY James, John, and Peter... rather than those who knew Christ? (NIV states Peter, not Cephas, although Christ himself calls Peter Cephas... the two are interchangeable.) Regardless, is it that you think those three people could be other than the James, John and Peter that knew Christ, simply because their names are common?
Peace,
tammy
tec
three names are just tht, they dont prove paul knew jesus. at most it shows he knew a peter, john and jacob. they may have all been apostles or maybe onky one was or maybe none. there were many men in judea with those names. if paul knew the jesus story why didnt he say anything aboyt it ? for all his preaching he never preaches about jesus in his letter except for his popular he died for us message. im having a hard time bleieving, i expected god to inspure something more'impressive than just listing thrree names once. why dont we hear about jesus life story mor the ressurrection multiple times in pauls leters?'if hes not going to mention the resurrextion once what was he talking about?'
I never said Paul knew Jesus. I said that Paul knew the apostles, making him of the same generation as them. I have stated elsewhere that I don't think Paul knew Jesus in the flesh... but he did know him in Spirit, as per his revelation.
Paul did know the apostles according to his own words. Peter and others are spoken of more than once in his letters. That at least James was an apostle is made clear by Paul's words here:
"Then after three years, I went up to Jerusalem to get acquainted with Peter and stayed with him fifteen days. I saw none of the other apostles - only James, the Lord's brother." Galatians 1:18,19
James, the Lord's brother. He knew those who knew Christ, and he was of the same generation.
Peace,
tammy
tec
catholics will tell you brother in scriptures like that means brother in religion and not a blood brother. at the very least im glad you stated that paul didnt know jesus in person or his ministry. im guessing by omitting or failing to clarify this problem you accept paul was perhaps of a different religious belief system. given he never really discusses beliefs its hard to knmow what he preached. so much for a good example or witness to some doctrine.
catholics will tell you brother in scriptures like that means brother in religion and not a blood brother.
So? Paul refers to the apostles who he went to see, he repeatedly refers to Peter, and he singles James out as the Lord's brother, in the same sentence that he mentions Peter and other apostles.
at the very least im glad you stated that paul didnt know jesus in person or his ministry. im guessing by omitting or failing to clarify this problem you accept paul was perhaps of a different religious belief system.
It is not a problem, so I did not omit or fail to clarify anything. It is a non-issue. Paul was not of a different religious belief system; he had the approval of those within Jerusalem who were apostles of Christ. He knew Christ through the Spirit... through revelation; which is also how others can know Him today. He preached a risen Christ.
Peace,
tammy
Darth Frosty!
LOL! I love that!
Breakfast of Champions! Ditto!
Tec and mP, can't deal with all that now, but I'll try and get back to you maybe this evening, busy day. But no group field service, Hooray!
EDIT: You can see how late I was writing last night when you see all the typos! Oops!
tec
the text says paul went to see james the brother of jesus, john and peter. no where does it say they are apostles of part of the twleve. younare assuming they were the apostles. surely if paul did know about jesus ministry and did visit them they would have been known as tye 12 aposltles of jesus. howecer the text says none mof that. perhaps the men he visit themselves never met jesus. after all paul never discusses any of the thoughts or theologynof jesus. if anythingnhe is a heretic and decided on his own to preach to gentiles, something jesus never attempted and on many noccassions said he onky came for jews. i know mat24 says something but else, but hey the bible is full of contradictions.
