sure sign of apostasy

by teejay 15 Replies latest jw friends

  • teejay
    teejay

    There's one sure-fire way to tip off your JW friends and family that you're leaning apostate...

    Just stop insisting on calling Jehovah "Jehovah" all the time. Call him "God" more often. Talk about raised eyebrows and mumbled conversations over in the corner!

    "Hmmmrph!! What's wrong with THEM!???" Has s/he forgotten god's NAME?!!"

    (Especially effective when making comments at the Wt study.)

  • larc
    larc

    Good point Teejay,

    Another thing you can do is talk about Jesus a whole bunch. They will think you turned Baptist.

  • BritBoy
    BritBoy

    Just say the Lord's Prayer at a meeting... why does that prayer freak them so much?!!!

    Or the Monty Python one:

    "Oh Lord who are so Huge
    So huge we can't see you...etc"

    Britty

    "My body is a Temple NOT an Amusement Park"

  • Room 215
    Room 215

    Or...

    salt your spiritual convesations with words like ``redemption,,''reconciliation,'' and ``grace.''

  • ashitaka
    ashitaka

    larc!!! my friend said that's how why the elders first started harassing him, because he was mentioning Jesus too much in his talks.......not porno, not debased things, but Jesus!

    My friend, who sort of DA'd himself, says that a lot of their teaching crumble if they put too much emphasis on Jesus.

    It's true about calling 'Jehovah' God. They can't stand that. God is his title, as they say, and Jehovah is his name. Don't know about you, but even if you do beleive in God, would you be as forward as to assume God wants you to call him by his first name? The almighty?

  • Bodhisattva
    Bodhisattva

    This brings back memories. I had set the date I would stop attending meetings altogether, having made arrangements for it to look like I was moving. I had a really good rep among the borg and just didn't want everyone to have to be all cognitively dissonant at once. In my last month I continued running the sound department till near the end, I read the Watchtower during the "study," and I probably had a Bible Highlights or Instruction Talk. The wait for the end was agonizing, but at least that end finally arrived - on schedule, even.

    But the hardest challenge was giving a prayer that did not use "Jehovah" and did not refer to the Organization ("brotherhood," yes, Big Brother, no). I had been complimented on prayers before, and I had also given many prayers that - although I didn't desire praise for myself - I thought should have elicited some compliments. But this one got compliments even from my two inquisitors (never went before a JC, but came close when I mouthed off too much to a family member months before), and from the local "annointed" sister.

    I was also trying to incorporate more Jesus and less Organization in my talks, as well as throwing in a few ideas that were slightly subversive, or expressed some of the more positive spin present in other denominations. I did this for two years with nary a question. For the most part these folks are desperate to hear something new, even if its a different way of expressing the same idea they've hear hundreds of times.

    Bodhisattva

  • RunningMan
    RunningMan

    Another way to get JW's goat, is to never say "the truth". Call them the Witnesses, the organization, anything but the truth. It will be a while before anyone notices, but it's worth it.

    I would like to make a short rant regarding JW's logic in using God's name.

    They say that since God is our father, and there are many false Gods, that we should use his name. It shows our love and close relationship. After all, a child wouldn't call their parent by their title (ie Mr. Jones), would he?

    Well, that illustration is stupid. A child normally wouldn't call their parent by their name, either (ie John). They would call him by a familiar title (like dad, or father).

    So, referring to God as God is completely appropriate.

  • Sargon
    Sargon

    It was easy for me, I just took up smoking.
    Problem is 25 years later, i'm still smoking and it's cost me an arm and a leg.

    I know it's only Rock n' Roll...

  • gumby
    gumby

    Start using the term Yahweh instead of Jehovah and when anyone says anything, tell them this is the proper way to say the name according to the society.

    When they say....how do you figure?....show them where it explains it in the NWT Reference bible under Gods name.
    Even the society admits they use Jehovah because it is "a commom english usage" but Yahweh is probably the proper pronunciation.

  • Stealth
    Stealth

    I put a bumper sticker on the back of my car that said

    "Real men love Jesus"

    That got em talking.

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