The story usually goes something this. A woman is "barren", meaning she is incapable of conceiving a child. She wants one so she goes to the high priest for a "blessing" and then lo, she is with child! Jah is praised roundly for the "miracle", the couple is happy that they now have a child, and the high priest has a big smile, thinking that high priesting is great work if you can find it.
Does the "Virgin Mary" God got me pregnant story sound fishy to you?
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wasblind
" That little man back there, He say's women can't have as much rights as men. 'cause Christ wasn't a woman. Where did Christ come from ? From God and a woman. Man had nothin' to do with him "________Sojourner Truth
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All heroes and kings in the ancient world were born of virgins. Jesus was not the first prominant person who claimed was born from a virgin. Zeus raped many maidens on earth and sired many heroes like Hercules and more. Even Alexander the Great claimed a god as his true father. Because nobody can fake their mother, the father became the only form one could use to have a godless heritage, tnis is why all heroes have virgin mums and miracle births.
There are coutless big names in the Bible had miraculous, Samuel, Isaac for example had miracle births, their mohters were very much old. We must understand the Bible contains many such devices to exagerrate the importance of someone. People back then really did believe heritage and line somehow made someone better or more worthy. This nonsense continues today in our modern world, kings and queens only marry other blue blood , many people believe blacks are inferior to whites and in the past condemned them because they supposedly were the chidren of Caanan.
By having a miracle birth or being in the right family that somehow in their ancient minds made people better than others. Take a look at Jesus , for some absurd reason hthe bible boats about his family tree including King David. King David was not a good man, every page about him is pure evil, if hes not killing, hes plotting to kill. King David is a fine role model for people like Hitler. Nobody should be proud of such a heritage. If anything jesus should have condemned him for his evils.
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John_Mann
Those pics look like Cher. ?
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Sometime in the future:
God: I never did have sex with that woman.
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Leolaia
Here is something interesting. The Testimonium Flavianum is the famous passage in Josephus that discusses Jesus. Immediately afterwards, Josephus bizarrely relates a totally unrelated story that is not only not about the Jews, nor set within the prefectship of Pontius Pilate, nor even set in Judea. So why is he even relating it? But interestingly this story DOES have resonance with one aspect of the story of Jesus in the synoptic gospels and Jewish tradition (specifically, the ben Pandera/Panthera tale): it concerns a woman who committed adultery believing she was having sex with a god:
"About the same time also another sad calamity put the Jews into disorder, and certain shameful practices happened about the temple of Isis that was at Rome. I will now first take notice of the wicked attempt about the temple of Isis, and will then give an account of the Jewish affairs. There was at Rome a woman whose name was Paulina; one who, on account of the dignity of her ancestors, and by the regular conduct of a virtuous life, had a great reputation: she was also very rich; and although she was of a beautiful countenance, and in that flower of her age wherein women are the most gay, yet did she lead a life of great modesty. She was married to Saturninus, one that was every way answerable to her in an excellent character. Decius Mundus fell in love with this woman, who was a man very high in the equestrian order; and as she was of too great dignity to be caught by presents, and had already rejected them, though they had been sent in great abundance, he was still more inflamed with love to her, insomuch that he promised to give her two hundred thousand Attic drachmae for one night's lodging; and when this would not prevail upon her, and he was not able to bear this misfortune in his amours, he thought it the best way to famish himself to death for want of food, on account of Paulina's sad refusal; and he determined with himself to die after such a manner, and he went on with his purpose accordingly. Now Mundus had a freed-woman, who had been made free by his father, whose name was Ide, one skillful in all sorts of mischief. This woman was very much grieved at the young man's resolution to kill himself, (for he did not conceal his intentions to destroy himself from others,) and came to him, and encouraged him by her discourse, and made him to hope, by some promises she gave him, that he might obtain a night's lodging with Paulina; and when he joyfully hearkened to her entreaty, she said she wanted no more than fifty thousand drachmae for the entrapping of the woman. So when she had encouraged the young man, and gotten as much money as she required, she did not take the same methods as had been taken before, because she perceived that the woman was by no means to be tempted by money; but as she knew that she was very much given to the worship of the goddess Isis, she devised the following stratagem: She went to some of Isis's priests, and upon the strongest assurances [of concealment], she persuaded them by words, but chiefly by the offer of money, of twenty-five thousand drachmae in hand, and as much more when the thing had taken effect; and told them the passion of the young man, and persuaded them to use all means possible to beguile the woman. So they were drawn in to promise so to do, by that large sum of gold they were to have. Accordingly, the oldest of them went immediately to Paulina; and upon his admittance, he desired to speak with her by herself. When that was granted him, he told her that he was sent by the god Anubis, who was fallen in love with her, and enjoined her to come to him. Upon this she took the message very kindly, and valued herself greatly upon this condescension of Anubis, and told her husband that she had a message sent her, and was to sup and lie with Anubis; so he agreed to her acceptance of the offer, as fully satisfied with the chastity of his wife. Accordingly, she went to the temple, and after she had supped there, and it was the hour to go to sleep, the priest shut the doors of the temple, when, in the holy part of it, the lights were also put out. Then did Mundus leap out, (for he was hidden therein,) and did not fail of enjoying her, who was at his service all the night long, as supposing he was the god; and when he was gone away, which was before those priests who knew nothing of this stratagem were stirring, Paulina came early to her husband, and told him how the god Anubis had appeared to her. Among her friends, also, she declared how great a value she put upon this favor, who partly disbelieved the thing, when they reflected on its nature, and partly were amazed at it, as having no pretense for not believing it, when they considered the modesty and the dignity of the person. But now, on the third day after what had been done, Mundus met Paulina, and said, "Nay, Paulina, thou hast saved me two hundred thousand drachmae, which sum thou sightest have added to thy own family; yet hast thou not failed to be at my service in the manner I invited thee. As for the reproaches thou hast laid upon Mundus, I value not the business of names; but I rejoice in the pleasure I reaped by what I did, while I took to myself the name of Anubis." When he had said this, he went his way. But now she began to come to the sense of the grossness of what she had done, and rent her garments, and told her husband of the horrid nature of this wicked contrivance, and prayed him not to neglect to assist her in this case. So he discovered the fact to the emperor; whereupon Tiberius inquired into the matter thoroughly by examining the priests about it, and ordered them to be crucified, as well as Ide, who was the occasion of their perdition, and who had contrived the whole matter, which was so injurious to the woman. He also demolished the temple of Isis, and gave order that her statue should be thrown into the river Tiber; while he only banished Mundus, but did no more to him, because he supposed that what crime he had committed was done out of the passion of love. And these were the circumstances which concerned the temple of Isis, and the injuries occasioned by her priests. I now return to the relation of what happened about this time to the Jews at Rome, as I formerly told you I would" (Antiquitates 18.3.4).