by criticalwitness 33 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
It's true that Jesus may well have married as was the Jewish tradition.
On the other hand, if all things really did come into existence by Jesus and through him, he would would have been the creator of woman. Knowing the anatomy of women inside out, too much information may have caused their sex appeal to lose its flavour on the bedpost over night.
I find it interesting that the thread asks the question about Jesus being tempted by a different temptation, then the thread turns into whether Jesus actually existed at all.....
I for one am a believer in Jesus Christ as Gods son, and I whilst I consider myself no longer a JW (7 years out and counting) I still have a spiritual need and have strong faith in both the bible and the son of god. Just had to put that here as some comments that have been said are what I would certainly call apostate, it also gives ammunition to those that think sites like this are just full of evil "worldly people" rather than a site for ex brothers and sisters that have helped each other through various trials and tribulations whether still in, fading, or made the brave step of leaving.
Peace.
You cannot be tempted if you do not exist.
The discrepancy with Jesus' ancestry in Matthew and Luke is because Matthew followed his ancestry through Joseph, while Luke followed it through Mary. Joseph is claimed to have descended from the royal line of Solomon, while Mary came from the line of Nathan, one of David's other sons. This is possibly due to the writer's realisation that Jesus could not truly be one of David's descendants because it was made quite clear that Joseph wasn't his biological father. The line through Mary had to be explored, and so it was.
I wouldn't go so far as to say that Jesus never existed. Just because there are no Roman records of his execution doesn't mean that he was not. If they kept records (or more fittingly, if the records somehow survived centuries of war and plunder), it would have to be quite an extensive list. I think that they (both Romans and Jews) thought he was a crazed eccentric who was causing trouble at the temple, and thought they were getting rid of a nuisance. There obviously was someone who was a self-styled teacher who claimed divine origin. What makes this so hard to believe? The details of his life and miracles performed are more suspect than his very existence.
me myself and i, sorry if you took qeustion or comments made as an attempt to subvert the faith of some that was not my intention i my be guilty of going off topic but not true apostacy i just find that same thing in my mind that did not allow me to ask qeustions in the org doesnt stop me now! and i will respectfully listen to both sides of the argument and i am geniunly interested in what anyone has to say i mean thomas was a true believer lived and walked with the man and even he had doubts! didnt make him an apostate! if he was son of god and that is one of satans main weapons why didnt he use? if jesus was a true full blooded man as j dubs say would he not have physical desires? then i go on how could be attracted to your kids your creation? if he was not was he really tested? was he really a man?
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jesus is not spoken #as a man but the sun. look at the language, hes the light of the world, coming in clouds, saviour - saves the world from the cold of night and winter. its no accident the holy days of xianity match the spring eq and winter solstice. continuing looking at all the super natural superlatives in the gospels and they all describe the sun. all the numbers in jesus life are solar, 12 apostles, 12 years old temple thing, 33 years old death - as in the masons another solar org. etc
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Maybe because he would never have passed it
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I think Jesus was tempted by the same things that tempt everyone else, including sex.
But who said he was attracted to women? Maybe Jesus was gay. He surrounded himself with men both on earth and when he returned to heaven.
... and, look! the Lamb standing upon the Mount Zion, and with him a hundred and forty-four thousand... who have been bought from the earth. These are the ones that did not defile themselves with women ... These are the ones that keep following the Lamb no matter where he goes. These were bought from among mankind as first fruits to God and to the Lamb... they are without blemish.
Jesus being gay would certainly explain why Satan directs his religious institutions to take such a hard-line hatred toward the GLBT community. I'm just say'n it could'uh was. They don't call us fruits for nuth'n!
I'm Hebrew, and thus my people, the Jews, have no belief in Jesus as the Messiah.
It's odd that as a Jew I know the Scripture text that claims that Jesus was indeed tempted with sex. Sure, I learned it when I was a Jehovah's Witness, but the interpretation by other Christians is the same. The Christian text of Hebrews 4:15 states that Jesus " was tempted in every way that we are, except without sin."
Therefore Jesus of Nazareth, according to Christian tradition, was indeed tempted with the same sexual temptations common to others. How this text was missed by people who are supposed to be fully educated in the Bible's contents, enough to either reject or accept it, especially after having had it hammered in them by the Watchtower (they commonly cite and quote this text), is curious. It's been decades since I was a Witness, but I still remember where that text is.
The biblical Jesus is never 'tempted with sex' because the character is a fictional archetype.
