Evolution is just a story like any other. People who think it is a final truth that will never be superseded have no sense of intellectual history. See Mary Midgley's works on science, including Evolution as a Religion.
Evolution skeptics will soon be silenced by science: Richard Leakey
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Lore
Given that this weeks watchtower study is still asserting that there was a global flood with only 8 survivors 4,400 years ago. . . I don't think evidence has any effect on these people.
More evidence is just more stuff to ignore.
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NewChapter
SBF: Are you saying you don't accept evolution? All we ever have to go on is current scientific findings---and the reason they remain theories is they are always open to falsification. So basically---it sounds like you simply don't have much confidence in science--
If that is the case, there is really no discussion. Just a person who denies science while taking advantage of all that science has done for them personally, and people that believe in the process that leads to more progress in the last century than superstitious humankind achieved in hundreds of thousands of years.
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darthfader
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Any "hard evidence" will eventually be called a test from Satan. There is no rationalizing with folks like that.
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cofty
Evolution is just a story like any other
Deepity alert!
What is reality but a social construct?
If I kick you in the balls will the pain be just a social construct?
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slimboyfat
I accept evolution as a useful and compelling story, not as final truth.
I want a pragmatic approach to science and truth claims generally.
Science led to Hiroshima as much as to open heart surgery, let's remember that.
Evidence is like the prop the magician wants spectators to fix upon while the trick goes on elsewhere.
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NewChapter
Whether knowledge is so loose-weaveOf a morning
When deciding whether to leave
Her apartment by the front door
Or a window on the second floor.---Tim Minchin
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slimboyfat
I think pain is bound up with discourse after reading Gergen's arguments. That is to say, the noise, reaction, consequences, the event itself, are socially situated.
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slimboyfat
I think pain is bound up with discourse after reading Gergen's arguments. That is to say, the noise, reaction, consequences, the event itself, are all socially situated.
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Flat_Accent
Are you trying to sound deep, Slimboy? To know is to not know and to be ignorant is to gain understanding, what are khaki pants but a social construct and all that?
There comes a point where you have to throw aside the BS mysticism and stick to a position. I doubt you'd be acting this way about any other scientific discovery. How we came to be just happens to be a touchy subject.