Jehovah protects Jehovah's Witnesses !!! Have you heard this?

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  Balaamsass

  New story on my Google alerts today. One more REAL LIFE experience to counter what I have heard Old JWs, Assembly parts and C.O.s spout for years.

  Jws kidnapped and beheaded;

  Abu bandit with P6-M bounty nabbed in Basilan By Roel Pareño Home Updated July 18, 2012 02:35 PM 2 comments to this post

  Zoom ZAMBOANGA CITY - Police intelligence operatives arrested in a pre-dawn raid in Lamitan City, Basilan, an Abu Sayyaf bandit tagged in the abduction of six members of the Jehovah's Witnesses 10 years ago. Chief Inspector Edwin Placio, Lamitan City police commander, identified the captured suspect as Hadjer Arasani with aliases Jilking and Injing. Placio said Arasani was caught by surprise when the combined elements from the Lamitan City Police Station and the regional police intelligence unit surrounded his hideout at around 2:45 a.m. in Barangay Tandung Ahas. He said the suspected bandit did not resist during the arrest. Placio said the Arasani has a pending warrant of arrest for the kidnapping of six members of the Jehovah's Witnesses in August 2002. The six Jehovah's Witnesses members were seized by Abu Sayyaf bandits in Patikul town in Sulu province. Two of them were later beheaded by the bandits and their bodies were dropped in a gasoline station in the downtown of Jolo. The suspect, who is carrying a P6-million bounty on his head, was also involved in the deadly drug buy-bust operation last May in Barangay Recodo in Zamboang City, where a member of the police Special Action Force (SAF) was killed while another was wounded. Placio said the suspect was brought to the police command post of the Regional Public Safety Battalion (RPSB) in Isabela City for debriefing. Arasani’s arrest came barely a week after the policemen captured Abu Sayyaf member Jumlie Orie Manjuri alias Salam in Isabela City. Salam was tagged in the abduction of US missionary Fr. Clarence William Bertlesman in 1994 in Jolo, Sulu province
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  blondie

  But you will see that the WTS qualifies that by saying only "as a group" and not as individuals. I remember that event; it was very sad.

  The WTS currently doesn't teach that each individual JW is guaranteed physical survival but that AS A GROUP JWs will survive. There was a scaling back of Psalm 91:7,8, that it did not mean literal physical protection. They have also said that individual JWs may die during the GT but not due to divine execution.

  That leaves a lot of room open for individual JWs to die, as long as they are not totally exterminated as a group. Notice the timing of these sources, around 1975.

  *** w74 3/15 p. 172 What Protection for God’s People? ***

  SURVIVAL THROUGH DIVINE PROTECTION

  When the "great tribulation" destroys this ungodly system there will definitely be survivors. In fact, the Bible refers to a "great crowd" who "come out of" or survive this "great tribulation." (Rev. 7:9, 14) Jehovah God will not allow the haters of his people to vent their rage to the point of exterminating them. By means of his Son and the angelic forces, he will come to the defense of his people, rescuing them from annihilation. They being his "loyal ones," their death as a people would be too "precious," too costly, in his eyes. (Ps. 116:15) They will also be shielded from the execution of divine judgment. Neither Jesus Christ nor his angelic forces will make a mistake. None of God’s servants will be swept away along with the wicked.

  Even if some do die at the hands of the enemy, their death would serve for the vindication of God’s holy name. Is your love for God of such a quality that, faced with death, you would count it a privilege to prove your loyalty to him no matter what the cost? Such a firm stand would glorify Jehovah and it would prove false Satan’s claim that your service to God is based on selfish considerations.

  One thing we definitely know: Jehovah God will never allow his loyal servants to be effaced from the earth. And not a single one of them will perish at the hands of Jesus Christ or his executional forces.

  *** w75 6/15 p. 377 Looking to the Future with Confidence ***

  Should we expect, moreover, that because Jehovah is on our side he will miraculously intervene to protect each one of us personally from death or injury during the "great tribulation"?Both Psalm 91:7-12 and Proverbs 3:25, 26 have been mistakenly cited by some as supporting this view. The psalm says: "A thousand will fall at your very side and ten thousand at your right hand; to you it will not come near." Lest we read into this text more than it states, we must ask ourselves if Moses is here talking about the coming "great tribulation" and is declaring a blanket protection for individual servants of God then. This would hardly be so when we remember that centuries later Paul showed that up to his time the devoted followers of Jehovah had undergone mockings, scourgings, prisons, tribulations and many other persecutions, even violent death. However, we can be assured that, as a group, Jehovah will protect them from being exterminated by their enemies during the "great tribulation," and He, himself, will not touch them during his executing of adverse judgments.—Heb. 11:36-38.

  *** w02 12/15 p. 15 "He Will Draw Close to You" ***

  How, though, does Jehovah guard his people? His promise of protection does not guarantee us a problem-free life in this system; nor does it mean that he is obligated to work miracles in our behalf. Nevertheless, Jehovah does provide physical protection for his people as a group. After all, he would never allow the Devil to efface true worshipers from the earth! (2 Peter 2:9)

  Blondie
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  james_woods

  That is not too different from saying that the passengers of the Titanic were protected "as a group"...
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  King Solomon

  James, are you a lawyer? You sure think like one... :)

  Funny that so many don't consider that the bible was written by a people who eventually dominated in the legal field, since the Torah is basically a text of contract law (AKA covenants).

  And JWs? They didn't call him 'Judge Rutherford' for nothing.

  And of course, JWs have many urban legends to fill in the gaps that remain in the official policy, eg that sister in service who was not murderee by the serial killer because two burly angels were her bodyguards... But again, God must be playing favorites: if they saved her, why not the two in the Phillipines?

  But yup: as long as at least two remain, it works to claim the group survived (and hopefully at least ONE of the two has a sneaking suspicion that something just isn't right with what they've been told....).
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  Balaamsass

  I remember how upset my mother was about the murder of a sister and the kidnapping of a baby during a convention years ago. It was a horrific crime, but a number of JWs stated she must of had a "secret sin " for the holy spirit to not protect her.

  A California sister was abducted and raped out in field service years ago. The Society really tried to hush that up. Anyone who mentioned it was counciled for "not maintaining confidentiallity", and for " speech that was not upbuilding".

  Instead the strange story of the "invisible angel man" protecting the Pioneer Sister, where passed along and NEVER squelched.

  Sick.
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  james_woods

  James, are you a lawyer? You sure think like one... :)

  No, I am just a software architect who thinks like one...

  They didn't call him 'Judge Rutherford' for nothing.

  Actually, they did. He totally made up the Judge part to make himself look more imposing.
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  King Solomon

  Instead the strange story of the "invisible angel man" protecting the Pioneer Sister, where passed along and NEVER squelched.

  Well of course it was passed on (and more properly stated, was never squelched by an article in the WT about urban legends, or a simple statement correcting the misconception) for the same exact reason: "it wouldn't be up-building"...
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  james_woods

  Of course, whether or not it was true was non-sequiter. Just so long as it was "up-building".
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  King Solomon

  Actually, they did. He totally made up the Judge part to make himself look more imposing.

  YOU would question King Solomon's wisdom on a legal point? WHY, I OUTTA CUT YOU IN HALF, LIKE AN INFANT! MARTHA! WHERE'S MY SWORD?!? :)

  According to the Wikipedia bibliography:

  Rutherford spent two years as a judge's intern, became an official court reporter at age 20, and was admitted to the Missouri bar in May 1892 at age 22. [ 23 ] He became a trial lawyer for a law firm [ 24 ] and later served for four years in Boonville as a public prosecutor. He campaigned briefly for Democratic presidential candidate William Jennings Bryan. [ 25 ] He was appointed as a Special Judge in the Eighth Judicial Circuit Court of Missouri, [ 23 ] [ 26 ] [ 27 ] [ 28 ] sitting as a substitute judge at least once when a regular judge was unable to hold court. [ 22 ] As a result of this appointment he became known by the sobriquet "Judge" Rutherford.

  Hmmm, so sitting "at least one time" for a case no doubt involving a farm boundary qualifies him to be called a "Judge". And if "at least two survive" qualifies JWs to claim protection of the "group".

  Legalese, at it's best.....
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  blondie

  http://www.freeminds.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=436:the-mystery-years-of-qthe-judgeq-joseph-franklin-rutherford-in-missouri&catid=27:rutherford&Itemid=342

  As said, Rutherford was sometimes an official Court Stenographer at Versailles (see Circuit Court Book 12, page 416) as well as in Boonville. (Book 19, page 181) The Cooper County Court record Book 19 on page 84 says he was familiar enough with legal forms and procedures that he was admitted to the Boonville bar on May 5, 1892 although not registered at any Law School accredited in Missouri. In the state when a Presiding Judge was absent the bar picked a local attorney to fill in as a substitute judge. This occurred fours times in his own case. Each time it was for only a day. Twice there were no trials that he presided over and on the other two occasions he presided over only minor trials. Therefore his sometimes being called "Judge" Rutherford is rather misleading.