Can You Believe this crap?

by Farkel 27 Replies latest watchtower scandals

  • Farkel
    Farkel

    I picked out these quotes from Hawk's UN thread.

    I cannot believe the Watchtower Printing Corporation had the balls to print this total pile of shit:

    " You are assuming that the association of the Watchtower with the UN was a gross sin and not an innocent act in order to take advantage of a resource for upcoming articles."

    Of course, this is a total red herring, and a big, fat lie. We already know that the WTS did not need to become and NGO in order to have access to all materials in the various UN libraries.

    "By your statements in this post you doubt the sincerity of the Watchtower's explanation on the reason they became an NGO.
    Why should we doubt our brothers?"

    The message here is simple: "if they are our 'brothers' no-matter-what they do, why should we doubt them?" If they advocated genocide, "why should we doubt them. They are our 'brothers'." What validity is given to an act that is totally contrary what the 'brothers' have been saying for decades, when it's sole justification is that it was done by 'out brothers?'

    I think I'm going to puke. This is the most idiotic statement I believe I've ever heard. But WAIT! There's more!

    "Is becoming an NGO the same as fornicating with the enemy? I don't think so."

    It doesn't matter what YOU think, DipShit. The WTS swore to support and uphold and promote the standards of the UN and they did it 10 times in a row, year-after-year. At the same time, they said false religion was "fornicating" with the UN when they did the very same thing.

    "The brothers obviously saw a benefit without compromising our loyalty to Jehovah."

    Oh? And where's the evidence for that, dummy? Just because YOU said so?

    "They took advantage of what the UN was offering, but they did not back it up as humanity's solution to its problems."

    Another red herring. No one has accused the WTS of "backing it up as humanity's solution to its problems." Does everyone see the idiocy of that statement? That's like being involved in the Mafia and when caught saying, "well we never backed up the Mafia as humanity's solution to its problems."

    "They never said that it is Jehovah's instrument to bring peace and security to earth."

    Another red herring. See my comment just above.

    "I do not see the actions of these brothers as a "sin".

    No one gives a rat what you "see." The fact (once again) is that for years your religion has claimed that all other religions are a harlot that fornicates with the United Nations. When caught red handed with 10 years of signed documents where your leaders swore to uphold and promote the interests of the very organization you have vilified as Satan's instrument, you now say, "I don't see that as a sin." You are a sack of shit hypocrite and shameless liar, dude.

    "I am sorry to point out that maybe on this issue, you have read too much into the "apostate reasoning" that is presented with the supposed "proof".

    Sorry? Why? Because you were caught? And if the so-called "apostate reasoning" is "supposed proof," did your leaders immediately withdraw from that association when the "apostates" discovered your charade? Also, if the proof is only "supposed," then where's a solid rebuttal to that proof without the ad hominems and red herrings?

    "If one looks at this "proof" without the demonized reasoning, then there is nothing to it."

    Ad hominem. The reasoning is "demonized" but no evidence is offered. If it really was "demonized," then surely a religion solely directed by Jehovah himself should have no trouble convincing any reasonable person that you are innocent. But you didn't do that. Why didn't you do that?

    I'll tell you why: you are goddamned LIAR working for a band of goddamned LIARS, that's why. Refute THAT.

    FarkelI cannot believe the Watchtower Printing Corporation had the balls to print this total pile of shit:

    " You are assuming that the association of the Watchtower with the UN was a gross sin and not an innocent act in order to take advantage of a resource for upcoming articles."

    Of course, this is a total red herring.

    "By your statements in this post you doubt the sincerity of the Watchtower's explanation on the reason they became an NGO.
    Why should we doubt our brothers?"

    The message here is simple: "if they are our 'brothers' no-matter-what they do, why should we doubt them?" If they advocated genocide, "why should we doubt them. They are our 'brothers'." What validity is given to an act that is totally contrary what the 'brothers' have been saying for decades, when it's sole justification is that it was done by 'out brothers?'

    I think I'm going to puke. This is the most idiotic statement I believe I've ever heard. But WAIT! There's more!

    "Is becoming an NGO the same as fornicating with the enemy? I don't think so."

    It doesn't matter what YOU think, DipShit. The WTS swore to support and uphold and promote the standards of the UN and they did it 10 times in a row, year-after-year. At the same time, they said false religion was "fornicating" with the UN when they did the very same thing.

    "The brothers obviously saw a benefit without compromising our loyalty to Jehovah."

    Oh? And where's the evidence for that, dummy? Just because YOU said so?

    "They took advantage of what the UN was offering, but they did not back it up as humanity's solution to its problems."

    Another red herring. No one has accused the WTS of "backing it up as humanity's solution to its problems." Does everyone see the idiocy of that statement? That's like being involved in the Mafia and when caught saying, "well we never backed up the Mafia as humanity's solution to its problems."

    "They never said that it is Jehovah's instrument to bring peace and security to earth."

    Another red herring. See my comment just above.

    "I do not see the actions of these brothers as a "sin".

    No one gives a rat what you "see." The fact (once again) is that for years your religion has claimed that all other religions are a harlot that fornicates with the United Nations. When caught red handed with 10 years of signed documents where your leaders swore to uphold and promote the interests of the very organization you have vilified as Satan's instrument, you now say, "I don't see that as a sin." You are a sack of shit hypocrite and shameless liar, dude.

    "I am sorry to point out that maybe on this issue, you have read too much into the "apostate reasoning" that is presented with the supposed "proof".

    Sorry? Why? Because you were caught? And if the so-called "apostate reasoning" is "supposed proof," did your leaders immediately withdraw from that association when the "apostates" discovered your charade? Also, if the proof is only "supposed," then where's a solid rebuttal to that proof without the ad hominems and red herrings?

    "If one looks at this "proof" without the demonized reasoning, then there is nothing to it."

    Ad hominem. The reasoning is "demonized" but no evidence is offered. If it really was "demonized," then surely a religion solely directed by Jehovah himself should have no trouble convincing any reasonable person that you are innocent. But you didn't do that. Why didn't you do that?

    I'll tell you why: you are goddamned LIAR working for a band of goddamned LIARS, that's why. Refute THAT.

    Farkel

  • Farkel
    Farkel

    Simon,

    When are you going to allow us to edit our posts again?

    Sorry about the sloppy typing, folks.

    Farkel

  • Derrick
    Derrick
    Of course, this is a total red herring, and a big, fat lie. We already know that the WTS did not need to become and NGO in order to have access to all materials in the various UN libraries.

    In all fairness Farkel suppose at the time they did not know they did not need to become and NGO in order to have access to all materials in the various UN libraries?

    Derrick

    To see a World in a Grain of Sand
    And a Heaven in a Wild Flower,
    Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand
    And Eternity in an hour.

    -- William Blake (Auguries of Innocence)

  • WildHorses
    WildHorses

    Farkel, we don't care about your sloppy typing. You got the message across and that's all that matters

    I don't want someone in my life I can live with. I want someone in my life I can't live without.
  • Sargon
    Sargon

    touche Farkel,
    I couldn't agree with you more. I just don't understand why you didn't know they had the balls to write this bullshit. They've had lots of years of practice in writing lies and shit.
    See Farkel, their lies work, they've almost convinced Derrick, how about the thousands of blind sheep that don't question their shit.


    They faught like warrior poets...and gained their freedom.

  • Farkel
    Farkel

    Rick,

    : In all fairness Farkel suppose at the time they did not know they did not need to become and NGO in order to have access to all materials in the various UN libraries?

    They claimed ignorance of a law THEY imposed upon themselves, to wit, that having anything to do with the UN was the same as fornicating with it? Give me a break, Rick?

    They have a bevy of lawyers that do nothing but read and re-read not only the literature they want to publish but virtually EVERY legal document before it is signed. And EVERY time they renewed that document, it basically said the same thing and said it clearly, as I have pointed out: they promised to uphold and promote the interests of the United Nations. Are you naive enough to think that THAT part of the agreement went unnoticed by WT legal?

    Furthermore, since the UN was supposed to be so evil and Satan directed for decades, why were they so sloppy in signing a document they hadn't even "read" thoroughly. Sorry, Rick. It doesn't wash. They are hypocrites of the worst sort.

    Lastly, where the hell was "Jehovah" during those ten years the society was in bed with the UN? Why did He let them do that if He personally directs them?

    Farkel

  • RedhorseWoman
    RedhorseWoman
    In all fairness Farkel suppose at the time they did not know they did not need to become and NGO in order to have access to all materials in the various UN libraries?

    This is totally irrelevant. The WTBTS has stated repeatedly over the years that religions that became involved in any capacity with the UN were considered to be part of the Harlot riding the Wild Beast. No excuses.

    In addition to the fact that they have teams of lawyers who are very careful to research every step made by the WTBTS, the simple fact is that they have preached about the necessity of staying clear of this organization that "sets itself up as a replacement for God's Kingdom".

    There is NO excuse for their joining as an NGO for ANY reason whatsoever. By their own words they are condemned.

  • LDH
    LDH

    Derrick,

    Are you out of your freakin' gourd, man?

    By that rationale, they should also be able to get Playboy for the great articles it contains! [wink,wink]

    Are you telling me you actually think they needed access to the UN li-berry, LOL?

    Which of their books or articles have you *ever* read that contained information so unique it could only have com from the UN Library?

    Lisa
    YWCA Class

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    Hey Fark

    I found your story about the 74 yr old hippie environmentalist very interesting. During the few hours you spent w him, did you learn other things about him? Such as: How was he brought up? Which people/books impressed him? His experiences during the 60's? How he got connected w nature? Was there anything else about him that impressed you, or you thought odd?

    Thanks SS

  • thinker
    thinker

    Let's try this. THIS IS MAKE-BELIEVE!!!!

    News flash:
    The Watchtower B,T,&S was rocked by the exposure that for ten years the GB has been performing a black mass in Bethel to call up the Devil himself!
    A Watchtower spokesman, B.S. Tower; explains their actions this way: "In today's world many doubt the existance of Jehovah. By proving the existence of Jehovah's enemy, we will prove the existance of Jehovah Himself. Also, by coming face-to-face with Satan, we can learn more about him; in order to bring about his destuction."

    Rank and file Jehovah's witnesses had this to say:

    " You are assuming that the association of the Watchtower with Satan was a gross sin and not an innocent act in order to take advantage of a resource for upcoming articles."

    "By your statements in this post you doubt the sincerity of the Watchtower's explanation on the reason they summoned Satan.
    Why should we doubt our brothers?"

    "Is calling up the devil the same as fornicating with the enemy? I don't think so."

    "The brothers obviously saw a benefit without compromising our loyalty to Jehovah."

    "They never said that Satan is Jehovah's instrument to bring peace and security to earth."

    "I do not see the actions of these brothers as a "sin".

    "I am sorry to point out that maybe on this issue, you have read too much into the "apostate reasoning" that is presented with the supposed "proof".

    "If one looks at this "proof" without the demonized reasoning, then there is nothing to it."

    Nothing can shake a cult member.

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