No, because they're not real. They're a demonic charade, like ghosts.
Could UFO Disclosure Bring About A Golden Age?
by metatron 62 Replies latest jw friends
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still thinking
Why would superior aliens only talk to the governments ? After all who is going to stop them from making a big public announcement or threat ?..mP
They have a deal going on...haven't you heard mP....It's all TOP SECRET ***maybe that's why you haven't heard *** LOL
Wars are not fought because of religion.
Wars are fought because men want to make money and have power.
War and cancer are big business...James Brown
Aliens and God are big business too....funny that.
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rekless
D on't worry about UFOs It is the Governments and Bankers you have to be concerned with, as well as the Illummanati
Famous Quotes about Government & Banking Control and the New World Order
The following is a four page list of quotes by famous individuals that reflect their knowledge of Government, Banking, Military, and Media control - or otherwise known as the "New World Order."
"The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government of the U.S. since the days of Andrew Jackson."
- U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt in a letter written Nov. 21, 1933 to Colonel E. Mandell House“If congress has the right under the Constitution to issue paper money, it was given them to use themselves, not to be delegated to individuals or corporations.”
- Andrew Jackson“The Government should create, issue, and circulate all the currency and credits needed to satisfy the spending power of the Government and the buying power of consumers. By the adoption of these principles, the taxpayers will be saved immense sums of interest. Money will cease to be master and become the servant of humanity.”
- Abraham LincolnWe can't be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans."
- Bill Clinton, USA Today on 3/11/93, page 2a“It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.”
- Henry Ford"Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government."
- Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference in Evians, France, 1991"The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government combining super capitalism and Communism under the same tent, all under their control.... Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent."
- Congressman Larry P. McDonald, 1976, killed in the Korean Airlines 747 that was shot down by the Soviets“Some even believe we (the Rockefeller family) are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”
- David Rockefeller, Memoirs, page 405"It is the system of nationalist individualism that has to go....We are living in the end of the sovereign states....In the great struggle to evoke a Westernized World Socialism, contemporary governments may vanish....Countless people...will hate the new world order....and will die protesting against it." - H.G. Wells, in his book, “The New World Order”, 1940
“Bankers own the earth; take it away from them but leave them with the power to create credit; and, with a flick of a pen, they will create enough money to buy it back again... If you want to be slaves of bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, then let the bankers control money and control credit.”
- Sir Josiah Stamp, Director, Bank of England, 1940."We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order."
- David Rockefeller"We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years... It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries."
- David Rockefeller, Bilderberg Meeting, June 1991 Baden, Germany"The few who understand the system, will either be so interested from it's profits or so dependent on it's favors, that there will be no opposition from that class." - Mayer Amschel Bauer Rothschild
“Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes it's laws."
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mP
rekless:
You do realise that all religions particular xianity are illuminati ! Illuminati means light.Just look at the language, art and architecture. Jesus and Jehovah sayings like, New light, I am the light, Coming in the Clouds, celebrating the winter solstice (xmas), spring(passover/easter), and thats just the start.
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mP
Why would superior aliens only talk to the governments ? After all who is going to stop them from making a big public announcement or threat ?..mP
Still:
They have a deal going on...haven't you heard mP....It's all TOP SECRET ***maybe that's why you haven't heard *** LOL
MP->Still
Well whoever theyve made a deal with is doing a good job because nobody has told me and i watch the interwebs and everything. My hat is off to our alien overlords, i will have to wait for the next Dan Brown novel to get the details.
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Prognoser
You do realise that all religions particular xianity are illuminati ! Illuminati means light.
mP, the historical Church was very much opposed to the Illuminati. In fact, the Illuminati was created to usurp and snuff out the Church. Illuminati symbolism in the Church only came after the revolutionary uprisings of the 17-19th centuries. Before that, it was non-existent. Some believe that the Illuminati hijacking of Christianity towards the late 18th century brought a close to the 1,000-year reign of Christ and ushered in a short time for Lucifer to rule and reign. Illuminism was a perversion of the Catholic confession, which brought forth psychoanalysis and the propaganda age. There is no mystery about it. Same goes for Freemasonry and the New World Order. The artificial mysteriousness the power elite have created around their cult is used to keep the rank and file bewildered and subservient. There is nothing new about the new age or the new world odour.
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still thinking
Well whoever theyve made a deal with is doing a good job because nobody has told me and i watch the interwebs and everything. My hat is off to our alien overlords, i will have to wait for the next Dan Brown novel to get the details...mP
They sure are good at being aliens...we humans have no idea...there is always a book opportunity when it comes to understanding them...and everyone is right.
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apostatethunder
I have a problem with criminals and psychos governing over the people that governs my country, and working behind the scenes to degrade and control society.
Same goes for people that relies on conspiracy, intrigues, insidious infiltration, manipulation of others, and crime to achieve their goals.
The Illuminate’s hand is clearly behind the two world wars, and the biggest crimes in the history of humanity, like the Russian and French revolution, which by the way the French continue celebrating every year, not sure if this means that they would advocate the same solution to eliminate the corruption and incompetence of nowadays governments: guillotine.
Freemasonry is another cult aimed at controlling people, the people at the bottom of the pyramid has no idea of the agenda they are supporting, pretty much like the witnesses have no idea what the WT is really about.
But unfortunately for them, some people will never be fooled, the truth is what it is, and doesn’t go away so easily. As Jesus said, if these remained silent, the stones would cry out.
They are prisoners of their own stupidity like other dictators before them, and are sowing their own misery.
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mP
Prog->MP
mP, the historical Church was very much opposed to the Illuminati. In fact, the Illuminati was created to usurp and snuff out the Church. Illuminati symbolism in the Church only came after the revolutionary uprisings of the 17-19th centuries.
mP -> Prog
Your assertions are very much wrong. Illuminati means light, we can see sun and solar symbolism everywhere from the Bible to xian art. All religions use astrological symbols. The muslims love the moon, hence the crescent moons everywhere.
Take a look at the Jesuits, a Catholic order seem to think the Sun is an appropriate symbol for their order.
TThe golden disc behind Jesus can be found in xian art for nearly 2000 years. The golden disc or halo is the Sun.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=halo
- halo (n.)
- 1560s, from L. halo (nom. halos ), from Gk. halos "disk of the sun or moon, ring of light around the sun or moon" (also "threshing floor" and "disk of a shield"), of unknown origin. Sense of "light around the head of a holy person or deity" first recorded 1640s. As a verb from 1801.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Peter%27s_Basilica
If Xian is not about solar worship, then why is there an obelisk an instrument to worship Ra the Egyptian Sun god in St Peters ?
Is that relic not the Sun golden with its sun rays ?
To the east of the basilica is the Piazza di San Pietro , ( St. Peter's Square ). The present arrangement, constructed between 1656 and 1667, is the Baroque inspiration of Bernini who inherited a location already occupied by an Egyptian obelisk of the 13th century BC, which was centrally placed, (with some contrivance) to Maderno's facade. The obelisk, known as "The Witness", at 25.5 metres (84 ft) and a total height, including base and the cross on top, of 40 metres (130 ft), is the second largest standing obelisk, and the only one to remain standing since its removal from Egypt and re-erection at the Circus of Nero in 37 AD, where it is thought to have stood witness to the crucifixion of St Peter.
The temple in Jerusalem naturally pointed east to the rising Sun.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:OldCityMapNameless.PNG
Lions Gate as in Leo the Lion the symbol of the Suna t its might. Golden Gate another solar reference. THe Lion is always the symbol of the Sun along with the cross.
I havent even begun to explore the terminology and scriptures that explicitly say Jehovah or Jesus is the Sun.
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Prognoser
mP, your source says this about halos depicted in art:
Sense of "light around the head of a holy person or deity" first recorded 1640s.
This is suspiciously close to around the time the Illuminati came into being. And halos (or even suns) aren't necessarily Illuminati symbols in the first place. The sun is a pretty common and universal symbol, whereas the pyramid is not.
Solar worship? Really? Unforunately, the concept of the "sun of God" only works in the English language. This "Christ Conspiracy" theory doesn't fit so well in other languages.
The obelisk is definitely important to the Illuminati, but one could argue that the Vatican obelisk is of only sentimental value and not of veneration or worship.
"The legend says that in the Vatican Circus innumerable Christians, including St. Peter, were sentenced to death and that the reason this obelisk was later overturned, unlike all others in Rome was to be considered as the last witness of the martyrdom of St. Peter."
I don't necessarily agree with the Popes' decision to retian this phallic symbol, but perhaps they thought by memorializing it capstoned by a cross (victory over Satan and death) was a good idea. Look at the Church built over the site where the Illuminati Bolsheviks murdered the Russian Tsar (St. Petersburg), for example. Also, the obelisk wasn't built from scratch but was re-rescurrected.
The Egyptologist Labib Habachi gives the most accepted reason in his book, "The Obelisk of Egypt" (1977 Charles Scribner's Sons):
"Legend has it that in the Vatican Circus innumerable Christians, including St. Peter, were put to death and that the reason this obelisk was not later overturned as were all the others in Rome was that it was looked upon as the last witness to the martyrdom of St. Peter."As for the Jesuits, you should know that the founder of the Illuminati—Adam Weishaupt—was a Jesuit himself. Obviously then we know the Jesuits were among the first to be compromised by the Illuminati, the Church soon to follow. Does that automatically mean that the Jesuits and the Church were Illuminist to start with? Of course not. As I said earlier, Illuminism was a corruption of the Catholic confession. Illuminism was the first systematic, organized form of espionage.
Author E. Michael Jones explains the revolutionary source and function of Illuminism thus:
"The means to this revolutionary end involved first finding the adept among the powerful: 'Seek out also those who are distinguished by their power, nobility, riches, or learning, nobiles, potentes, divites, doctors, quaerite, - Spare no pains, spare nothing in the acquisition of such adepts. If heaven refuse its aidance, conjure hell. Flectere si nequeas superos Acheronta movebo.' Then after identifying the adept's dominant passion through study and the adept's confession, manipulating that passion as an instrument of control: 'Study the peculiar habits of each; for men may be turned to anything by him who knows how to take advantage of their ruling passion.'
Weishaupt admired Igantius of Loyola, and so the Illuminati were in many ways an imitation of the Jesuits, and their recruiting and control practices a parody of the Spiritual Exercises. Where faults are identified by the Jesuit superior through examination of conscience to be then confessed and their power over the novice thereby broken, the Illuminist parody of the examination of conscience first ferrets out dominant passions to be preserved and manipulated by the Illuminist controller, rather than extirpated through repentance and confession. Examination of conscience in the Illuminist sense of the word is used by the Illuminist confessor as an instrument of control. Once the adept had confided his vices to his superior as part of the initiation rite, his passions will be used as a way of controlling him. If he discovers the ploy and objects, his past sins will be used against him in a form of blackmail that is in many ways demonic perversion of the seal of the confessional...."
—E. Michael Jones, Libido Dominandi: Sexual Liberation and Political Control, 2000, pg. 88-89
Obviously, this also describes the inner workings of Sigmund Freud's psychoanalytic movement, which, unlike we have been told, is a sophisticated system of control, not sexual liberation. In other words, sexual liberation and liberalism are based on lies.
