My son and Elder janitor

by jam 45 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Cold Steel
    Cold Steel

    I don't look down my nose at janitors, neither would I jeopardize this old gent's job in any way. While I understand many of you are embittered against the Jehovah's Witnesses, I see no reason to be nasty or condescending. Alcoholism is a nasty vice and no sane person would want to be victimized by it. It's one thing to free one's self from the Watchtower religion; however, are you going to throw Christianity out as well? Many of the apostles had menial jobs, yet Jesus used them to carry the gospel message into the world. Is being a janitor any worse? If he is an alcoholic, do you think he's proud of his life? (I'd rather be a sober janitor than a sloshed bank executive.)

    As it is, why not urge the poor guy to get help in beating his alcohol addiction instead of reporting him to management?

  • jam
    jam

    Cold steel: No one is looking down at janitors, I was one

    in my JW day, and many here. My father raised a family of

    six on a waiter salary, my mom a maid until she went to college

    at age 50 to become a teacher.

    The problem with JW,s they are so arrogant. Try talking

    to a JW to encourage him to seek professional help, they will

    look at you as if you have lost your mind. He is a Elder, he

    is second in line to Jehovah himself, he is in a lofty position.

    Now you, only pity,loathsome, you are not qualified to be his friend.,

    unless you become a JW. He is looking forward for your destruction.

    Obnoxious, don,t agree with them and see how rude they can become.

    Yes, let him live with his delusion. Know tell me, would you more willing

    to help a homeless person or help this clown.

  • GromitSK
    GromitSK

    How about a helping a homeless clown?

  • jam
    jam

    Definitely a homeless clown. In costume, hell yes.

  • GromitSK
    GromitSK

    Lol

  • King Solomon
    King Solomon

    Cold steel said:

    I don't look down my nose at janitors, neither would I jeopardize this old gent's job in any way.

    You either don't get it, or you don't accept personal responsibility.

    The JANITOR is responsible to make sure HE doesn't jeopardize his job. ANYONE, JW or Buddhist or atheist, who uses their work environment to preach to co-workers, IS placing their OWN job at risk: no one else, BUT THEMSELVES. There are very few secular business environments which don't see it that way....

    While I understand many of you are embittered against the Jehovah's Witnesses <snip>

    You don't understand: I'm speaking for ANYONE, ANYBODY, ex-JW or not, who knows even the basics of employment law.

    Here's a case from Canada which illustrates the point of workplace religious harassment:

    http://blogs.hrhero.com/northernexposure/2010/07/26/preaching-on-the-job-results-in-termination-for-cause/

    U.S. law on workplace religious harassment is similar:

    http://www.ehow.com/about_6714689_legally-considered-religious-harassment-workplace_.html

    Point is, the law cuts both ways: employers cannot discriminate on the basis of religious grounds, but employees cannot harass OTHERS. The workplace should be a religion-free zone. End of story.

    I see no reason to be nasty or condescending. Alcoholism is a nasty vice and no sane person would want to be victimized by it. It's one thing to free one's self from the Watchtower religion; however, are you going to throw Christianity out as well? Many of the apostles had menial jobs, yet Jesus used them to carry the gospel message into the world. Is being a janitor any worse? If he is an alcoholic, do you think he's proud of his life? (I'd rather be a sober janitor than a sloshed bank executive.)

    As it is, why not urge the poor guy to get help in beating his alcohol addiction instead of reporting him to management?

    R u kiddin' me? You obviously have a Savior complex: God help you, if you think your job in life is to save lost souls (even when your employer warns you against trying to do so...)

  • jam
    jam

    KS; In JW,s minds witnessing will take precedence over

    any man made law.

  • King Solomon
    King Solomon

    KS; In JW,s minds witnessing will take precedence over any man made law.

    Yeah, freedom of religion means JWs can think whatever they want, but that doesn't make it "the truth", or overrides existing laws.

  • GromitSK
    GromitSK

    It does to them.

  • wasblind
    wasblind

    I hear ya Jam

    Jehovah's witnesses don't encourage the youth to take a step up from the previous generation

    ain't no need, the world as they know it is comin' to an end in the next twenty minutes

    I jus' know you were proud of your mom

    King Solomons statement brings back to mind, a time when I was in the bank

    An elderly sister who attended the Hall was at the counter, I thought to myself she sure is takin' a long time

    Before she left the counter she whipped out two mags and placed wit the teller

    Talk about pissed, knowin' she held up the line due to her " transaction / preachin' "

    .

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