Bohm: Thanks for answering at least one of my questions. What did you think of the section of the documentary I referred you to?
20571pnt428571: Thank you for taking the time to respond, you make some interesting points.
"the whole world that Russell was coming out of was all already occult based"
I'm sure you're right about that, but are you implying that Russell coming up with 1914 by measuring the passages of a pyramid was just par for the course (given the times), but that that doesn't invalidate the date, because obviously somehow his calculations were guided by god? Even though he had originally said in 1879 that measurement of the passage pointed to 1874, before literally changing the measurement itself to make it point to 1914 in 1916!
Farkel and supporters: I'm not saying the modern day JWs are in league with the so called 'illuminati' of today, only that Russell himself seems to have had strong connections to the secret societies of his time, by virtue of being of the Russell bloodline, funded by the Rothchilds, and a 33rd degree Freemason. Also I find the fact that Russell practiced and preached astrology, pyramidology and phrenology somewhat ironic, given how vehemently they warn people against these 'things Jehovah detests'!
Like many other exclusive and fundamentalist religious organisations, the JWs create phobias about the 'outside' world, they encourage obedience to Caesar (to a point) as well as God, and they discourage members from getting involved in politics or being ‘part of the world’. Since well-trained sheep like these are unlikely to challenge government and are therefore not a threat to the globalist agenda (in fact they usually quite like the idea of some kind of worldwide unification), so the powers that be are happy to allow them, at least for now.
Regarding conspiracies, who knows whether or not there are multi-generational plots that have spanned the ages, but what is surely indisputable is that the powerful elite do indeed get together to create cartels, monopolies and cabals to retain and expand their own wealth and power - what is that, if not a conspiracy? After all, a conspiracy is simply an agreement between two or more people to deceive, mislead, or defraud others of their legal rights, or to gain an unfair advantage .
Aaron Russo, a man who has done his research, is one of many who has worked to raise awareness of the fact that, since 1913 when they were given the power to create money, private bankers rule the world and can, and do, dictate to governments. This is not a theory.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6ayb02bwp0
Most conspiracy theories probably are wild flights of the imagination, but they generally arise when there are too many inconsistencies to believe the official story. Take 9/11 for example – amongst all the questions not satisfactorily answered, my favourite has to be 'What happened to WTC7?'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEuJimaumW4&feature=related
Bizarrely, the official line is that WTC7 collapsed of its own accord due to fires, even though that's virtually impossible for a steel-framed building and the 6.5sec descent has all the hallmarks of a controlled demolition.
It's somewhat suspicious that, given the tenants of that building, several people in the corporate world would have benefited hugely from the loss of papers contained within it (possibly even evidence relating to the attacks on the towers themselves), not to mention the fact that some people seemed to know well in advance that it was going to collapse, including CNN and the BBC http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2008/07/controversy_conspiracies_iii.html.
What real evidence is there to suggest the official 9/11 story is true? If the story is true, why doesn't it check out in all respects? I agree that any theory - including the theory that Al-Qaida was behind the attacks - needs evidence, which is why I like this video response to the question ‘What would it take to convince you that 9/11 was not an inside job’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCgMCw2-aJ0 .
Given that people’s lives are at stake, the burden of proof should lay with the government - the people who supposedly make decisions on our behalf and in our best interests - to supply concrete evidence (which they claim to have) that backs up their decisions and, if necessary, to answer to the public by means of an independent public investigation.
When governments use events to justify wars and make major policy decisions which affect our lives, and the lives of thousands of others, we have a right to know that those decisions were based on truth, and a responsibility to hold our governments accountable if they weren’t.