Bush is he crazy?

by happy man 35 Replies latest jw friends

  • cellomould
    cellomould
    Bush enjoys THE HIGHEST approval rating of any US president in history (90%) of the US. Even liberals have changed their tune in post 9-11 and are glad that Bush is president. If Gore were president, we would all be doomed. Let's face it.

    This is a non-sequitor.

    The reader has not the power to evaluate this statment, so they blindly accept it.

    This is the kind of mental manipulation that got Bush into office.

    cellomould

    "In other words, your God is the warden of a prison where the only prisoner is your God." Jose Saramago, The Gospel According to Jesus Christ

  • bboyneko
    bboyneko
    Past administrations, Democrat and Republican, did little or nothing to combat International Terrorism.

    It's not that they tried to fight terrorism, they caused most of it by the insane and inexcusable support of Israel and other middle-eastern policies. Do you think middle east terrorists would have any grudge against the US if they hadnt interfered so much in the middle east for oil and power?

  • hillary_step
    hillary_step

    ChristFollower,

    Bush enjoys THE HIGHEST approval rating of any US president in history (90%) of the US. Even liberals have changed their tune in post 9-11 and are glad that Bush is president.

    Are 'approval ratings' supposed to mean something?

    They are generally, more an indication of marketing success than a sound policy.

    Ninety-eight percent of Nazi Germany voted for Hitler in the pre-WWII elections, by your definition, this means something positive.

    What this public endorsement did do, was empower him the confidence to institute a terrible dogma that destroyed millions.

    The problems the US is trying to confront at present exist outside the US itself. Personally CFollower I have no confidence that the man has any understanding of the culture and inclinations of non-Americans.

    This is very worrying.

    Best regards - HS

  • Pork Chop
    Pork Chop

    The impressive thing about Bush is that what he says he's going to do, he does. Even whenmost people don't give him much chance for success.

    As for not understanding other people's culture's, etc. Maybe it's time other people understood the dominant culture on this planet.

  • cellomould
    cellomould
    The impressive thing about Bush is that what he says he's going to do, he does. Even whenmost people don't give him much chance for success.

    As for not understanding other people's culture's, etc. Maybe it's time other people understood the dominant culture on this planet.

    This impresses you?

    Well, it's my turn to impress you....

    I am going to take a dump within the next hour. This is a pressing need that I perceive.

    And you can be sure I will deliver on my word.

    <plop!>

    cellomould

    "In other words, your God is the warden of a prison where the only prisoner is your God." Jose Saramago, The Gospel According to Jesus Christ

  • hillary_step
    hillary_step

    PorkChop,

    As for not understanding other people's culture's, etc. Maybe it's time other people understood the dominant culture on this planet.

    The US was attacked by a desert nomadic culture, who have no respect or understanding of its culture, but who did manage despite this, to ensure that the citizens of the US are paying for its ignorance of foreign policy with jobs, higher taxes and a guarantee that the next decade will be a struggle for all US citizens. Coping with the huge military budget that will threaten economic stability for many years to come, will not be much fun.

    As far as I can see the terrorists have to this point been successful beyond their dreams in their acts of murder. The prior warnings given to the CIA by France and Israel went unheeded, because the ‘dominate culture’ on the planet had a belief in its own invincibility. Now its answer is not to try to understand and ignite a diplomatic policy to ensure its safety, but to annihilate.

    For example, the US citizenry has for decades aided and abetted the IRA, by channeling funds into their hands through NORAID, thus keeping the Irish problem with the sectarian life-blood it needed to survive, it is finally having to scoop up the severed organs of international terrorism itself. The reaction - ‘bomb the bastards’. Can you see a little bit of hypocrisy winking slyly out of this scenario?

    The US in its continuing cultural ignorance will reap more pain unless it tries to understand the culture and thinking of people from other nations. It may not like diplomacy, but the skills of the diplomat have averted many wars over thousands of years. As Kissinger once told an ex-president when confronted with the US sending a 23 year old Jewish /American diplomat to aid in bringing peace to Palestine, "Mr President, they do not read those sorts of comics in Palestine".

    Bush and his cabinet are no different in their foreign policy aims than most US Presidents, that of Democratic domination. He is however more ignorant of history that many of his predecessors, and the country will pay a high price for his limited experience in this field. Those that encourage him to believe his own press are sadly misguided imho.

    I think PorkChop that less blood would be spilled if the US tried to understand that despite being a powerful culture it is part of a global village, and unless it understands this fact it will not cope successfully with tomorrow’s world.

    Best regards - HS

  • expatbrit
    expatbrit

    How America is promoting it's image overseas. From The Economist's Face Value column, Feb 21, 2002:

    From Uncle Ben's to Uncle Sam

    Feb 21st 2002
    From The Economist print edition

    Charlotte Beers's job is to fix America's image overseas. Can the schmooze queen of Madison Avenue deliver?

    “SHE got me to buy Uncle Ben's rice,” said Colin Powell, America's secretary of state, early last year as he defended his appointment of Charlotte Beers as chief spin-doctor. The 66-year-old Texan steel magnolia dresses her poodle in sweaters, flirts with company bosses and is lauded as the most powerful woman in advertising. “There is nothing wrong with getting somebody who knows how to sell something,” Mr Powell added. “We are selling a product. We need someone who can rebrand American foreign policy, rebrand diplomacy.”

    Charismatic and striking, Ms Beers certainly knows how to sell things. In a 40-year career, including stints running two top advertising agencies, Ogilvy & Mather and J. Walter Thompson, she conquered Madison Avenue with a mix of southern charm and sheer audacity. She ate dog food to woo product men at Mars; she wowed managers at Sears by casually dismantling and reassembling a power drill during her pitch.

    That was in peacetime. But this is war. By the time Ms Beers took up her post last October, the task of the newly-minted undersecretary of state for public diplomacy and public affairs had changed beyond recognition. September 11th turned the job of improving America's image into a highly sensitive political post, requiring diplomacy and knowledge, particularly of the Middle East.

    America's newly-inflamed patriotism may be playing well at home. But abroad, the world's only “hyperpower”, as Ms Beers puts it, is often seen as a boorish bully, intimidating its allies and unable to comprehend the hatred it inflames across the Arab world. Indeed, military success on the ground may only have widened the cultural and psychological gulf between America and some Arab-Muslim nations.

    Fixing this will be difficult, wearying, and perhaps impossible. Ms Beers herself calls it “maybe a 100-year project”. But she is tackling it with her accustomed energy. True to her marketing roots, she is doing consumer research in weekly meetings with American Muslims, though her first overseas trip (to meet Arab opinion-formers in Britain, Egypt and Morocco) only took place in January.

    She has also been pushing her people to get the word out. Since September 11th, State Department officials, including Christopher Ross, an Arabic-speaking former ambassador to Damascus, have made some 2,000 media appearances, mostly on al-Jazeera television. Ms Beers has produced a booklet about terrorism in 30 languages and is trying to portray America as a place of religious tolerance for Arabs through posters, articles and documentaries on Muslim life in America. “I consider the marketing capacity of the United States to be our greatest unlisted asset,” she says.

    But whether marketing is the right tool to change Arab attitudes is questionable. Wally Olins, a specialist in branding countries, believes America's image is too entrenched and complex—inspiring admiration, jealousy, fear and disgust in equal measure—for a simple branding campaign to work. Ms Beers concedes this. She has come under fire for public speeches about “brand America” which fuelled criticism of America's naive fixation on image. Mary Matalin, an adviser to Dick Cheney, the vice-president, has warned that the resulting fuss “has cast this patina over the whole operation.”

    A hard sell
    Ms Beers's success in her old job may have encouraged her to overlook basic marketing laws in her new one. Know your audience, for one. Like most Americans, this daughter of a cowboy, who counts America's domesticity diva, Martha Stewart, among her best friends, naturally assumes that her values are the right ones. She assumes that everyone, given a choice, would want to be American and that the hatred her countrymen encounter overseas must be a tragic misunderstanding. “Everywhere I go”, she says, “I hear that people like the American people, but they don't like our policies.”

    This seems to betray a lack of understanding not only of the terrorists, but of millions of non-Americans with completely different views of the world. At a lunch in Cairo, Muhammad Abdel Hadi, a newspaper editor, complained: “Ms Beers expressed herself like President Bush in every way. No matter how hard you try to make them understand, they don't.”

    For all of Ms Beers's conversations with Muslims, America's communications have been off-target at best and dangerous at worst, says James Zogby, head of the Washington-based Arab-American Institute. As an example, he cites the decision to focus on Osama bin Laden's apparent guilt in the videotape where he gloats over the September 11th attacks, rather than on what incensed Muslims: a holy man acting like a vainglorious American. “America lost a chance to diminish bin Laden,” says Mr Zogby.

    Ms Beers also knows that the best way to damage a brand is to mismatch the image and the reality. Yet whatever gloss she can apply to America's image is wiped away by behaviour beyond her control. As she took part in a daily conference call to co-ordinate public diplomacy, for example, the Department of Defence merrily released doctored photos depicting a clean-shaven, besuited Mr bin Laden—undermining American claims that it never tampers with evidence. And it is not at all clear how the Pentagon's new Office of Strategic Influence, and its controversial initiative to shape opinion towards American military operations, possibly by planting stories in the foreign press, fits in with Ms Beers's own efforts.

    With a bit of luck and a lot of money and persistence, Ms Beers may, in time, convince some non-Americans (and possibly even some Muslims) of her cause. But she is unlikely to be able to polish up America's image to the extent that both she and her boss would like. The days when Ms Beers's problems could be solved by eating a little dog food must seem increasingly appealing.

  • hillary_step
    hillary_step

    ExpatBrit,

    I missed that article in the 'Economist', my goodness, what can I say?

    It seems that American Foreign Policy, is still a threatened species.

    Quiz time. Anyone remember the film 'Ryans Daughter'? Question. What do John Mills and George Bush have in common?

    HS

  • Englishman
    Englishman

    Hillary_Step,

    They both have the hots for Sarah Miles?

    Englishman.

  • Englishman
    Englishman

    MMM, no.........Ah!

    Didn't John Mills play with unexploded ordnance without realising the danger?

    Englishman.

Share this

Google+
Pinterest
Reddit