by messenger 54 Replies latest jw friends
My heart hurts for this Dad. He is suffering, but think of how he would be sufferring now if he had allowed her to die. It would be so nice if we could contact him and give him LOVING support. Letters and cards of support would be nice, but until then let us all send our prayers. The depression he is going through will be unbearable and we all know he will not get it from the cong. and all those he loves.
SUSCARRA
Well I'm with dad 100% of course and my heard bleeds for him. It seems a bit off though to be honest. I mean you can basically get away with almost anything IF you say you're sorry. I wonder if these blood treatments took place over a long period of time, that would make his repentence seem insincere.
Then again he may have told them to get screwed too. I'm sure most of us would have done that.
Imagine though, even the daughter he helped save says she "sometimes hates him". Boy the society can really do a number on you.
Never Squat With Yer Spurs On
This story ran on the lower part of the front page of the front section of our local paper today. I live in Western Canada where this story is taking place. I hope lots of people read it and realize that the JW are a lot different than "the happiest people on earth" that they claim to be. If someone was considering a study, I would hope that they would realize that it could cost them the life of their child.
Sad and sick. The girl is so assimilated that she draws the analogy of the transfusion as being "raped." In one breath she's pleading she doesn't want to die...but then again she hates her dad for allowing the very thing that will save her life? Seems they go into auto "die for Jehovah" mode. I feel so bad for the father.
The girl was already "mentaly raped" by the Borg.
BASTARDS, DIE BORG DIE!
Man, I wish I could share Ray’s chapter on Blood with him. That would give him the info he needs. Franz eloquently puts the JW stand on blood right where it belongs, in the trash can.
My heart is absolutely breaking at this point. "I hate you" is such a terrible phrase and I remember it floating through my childhood household as much as "Pass the salt." *shaking head* They have no idea how much damage those three little words can cause.
Mentally raped? I have a tendency to agree with that although I don't feel it is the child/father/drs fault. I do believe it's the WTS fault. Makes me ill just thinking about it.
Andi
Thanks for posting this Messenger! I too wish we could somehow get in touch with this poor man and let him know he is not alone in his trial. This is the very thing that got me looking into outside material so many months ago. I'm getting up in age in regards to having children and had decided I wouldn't have any because I felt I wouldn't be able to deny my child a blood transfusion if I was ever faced with such a "test of faith". This led me to want to be absolutely sure about the blood issue and thus here I am.
So sorry to hear of messenger's ordeal with his daughter. I can fully understand the trauma he must be going through by being confronted with his daughter's pain and suffering over a period of time. Also the fact the the Society changes their policy (so the light is getting brighter and brighter as they so eloquently say...)on certain blood components. In earlier days they were NOT allowed to take any form of blood. Now they can take cow's blood and many other human blood components, yet not certain other parts. It becomes more and more complex, however I can clearly see that in the near future almost all blood can be consumed through transfusions. This is all to add to his confusion of what is and what is not allowed and I am sure that the Almighty God Jehovah would have the infinite wisdom to see though all this confusion (created by the Witness I may add...) and
look favorably upon messenger, quite in contrast to the all-loving Christian Congregation of Jehovahs Witnesses.
The JW's are unique in that they can trun around this "love" and immediately start shunning a person (whom they formerly "loved") as if he were a dead man already. That's the hypocritical part which I despise with all my heart and is really unforgivable...Which prompts me to ask these 3 questions: Who really is the man of lawlessness? - Who is the modern day part of the Pharisee class? - Where do we find the identifying mark of genuine love -... You be the judge...
My posting limit is up but if anyone woudl like to put this up as a topic you are welcome. Good ole Prince is at it again.
Music News
Artist aims higher than old hits
03/11/02
John Soeder
Plain Dealer Pop Music Critic
Forget partying like it's 1999.
The Artist Currently Known Again As Prince has changed his tune for the new millennium.
He had his sights set on a higher power when he head lined a sold- out show last night at Playhouse Square's Palace Theatre.
"If you came to get your 'Purple Rain' on tonight, you are so at the wrong party," Prince warned the audience.
The set list drew heavily from his new album, "The Rainbow Children," which could be subtitled "The Gospel According to Prince." The quasi-Biblical effort is filled with references to God, "Banished Ones" and a certain "Sensual Everafter."
Prince, 43, reportedly became a Jehovah's Witness recently. If he appears on your doorstep, pray he brings along his smoking five-piece band.
They certainly made believers out of 2,900 fans at this inspired gig.
The jazzy title track of "The Rainbow Children" got the night off to a fine start. Prince was decked out in black pants, a black shirt and a gray jacket.
During the swinging opening number, he sat down on the edge of the stage and fired off a crackling guitar solo. Then he stepped up to a microphone and proclaimed in a robotic voice: "As prophesied, the wise one and his woman were tempted by the resistor."
Nobody seemed quite sure what he meant. Nobody seemed to mind, either.
"Muse 2 the Pharaoh," "Mellow" and other new songs also went over well, none more so than "1+1+1 Is 3." In the middle of the latter tune - a funky paradise a few exits past "Erotic City" - Prince stopped to scold a woman in the front row who was eating a chocolate sundae instead of dancing.
"Are you with us, dear?" he asked. "All right - we can continue."
Prince breathed new life into a handful of older crowd pleasers, too, including "When You Were Mine," "Take Me with U" and the neo-psychedelic "Raspberry Beret."
Rounding out the concert were several intriguing stabs at material by other artists. Joni Mitchell's "A Case of You" made a fine vehicle for Prince's wicked falsetto. He also did right by Sly & the Family Stone's "Sing a Simple Song" and the Delfonics chestnut "La-La Means I Love You."
Prince left many of his own "greatest" hits unplayed. All the same, his greatness came across loud and clear.
How was it for you? E-mail your concert comments to
Contact John Soeder at:
[email protected], 216-999-4562
