You can not truly love anyone if you do not love yourself first.
Conditional love is a deal, unconditional love is a gift.
Unconditional Love-How would you describe it?
by rip van winkle 239 Replies latest members private
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talesin
On a general note, and seeing the many pages of this thread, and the anger of 'some' posters,,
I was once told, that someone who advocates for peace, should not be standing up at a rally, and angrily shouting against war. It is an oxymoron.
So, on this thread about unconditional love (and excuse me, KS, but you chose to define this thread's intent a few pages back and ermmm, it's not YOUR thread, it is RVW's thread) ..
anyhoo,, on this thread, should we not be more loving and kind? Some folks have been, but others are quite nasty. If you have no love in your dealings with others, I would guess, or say,, that you are not wise with regards to the nature of love. So perhaps, you should LISTEN UP, and learn,, instead of blathering on about a subject you know little about.
just sayin' ..................
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ziddina
Ooooo, are things getting - uhm, not so 'unconditionally loving' in here????
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Angharad
Moving this back - lets keep on topic and civil and not personal to anyone or their circumstances.
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mrsjones5
I would love to know what you just said.
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King Solomon
Or as a sign of respect, we all just could follow the posting guidelines to enhance understanding:
8) Posting in a language other than English.
TEC said:
"There is a flaw in your reasoning here. If you experience something, you know it exists because you experience it. Not the belief... but the thing you believe in. In fact, you probably believe in it BECAUSE you experienced it."
Psychoses and hallucinations are very real perceptions (experiences) that some people believe to be real, but aren't 'reality' to anyone but themselves. These cases often can be controlled/eliminated by treating with meds, as they exist due to neuro-chemical imbalances in the brain of the person who suffers from them (and they can be terrifying to those afflicted).
So unlike the old saying, seeing is NOT always believing (and illusionists wouldn't be in show business if the saying wasn't still believed by many).
We know better, even from recent scientific studies that demonstrate the fallability of eyewitness testimony (visual memory), often horribly inaccurate recorders of actual events.
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King Solomon
"if you love someone set them free; if they don't return, they never were yours".
I have always loved that saying...it is true.
I think it is important to keep it in context though. And to not push people away...as though it is some sort of test. I think sometimes people confuse this too.
Yeah, i agree: I've always taken it not as something that is done to test the boundaries of love (which wouldn't be necessary, if someone was in a MUTUAL UL relationship, right?), but perhaps the advice to take to heart when at the last stages of a dissolving relationship, and you really have no choice BUT to accept the prospect of loss.
It IS paradoxical advice for some, but sometimes people get so wrapped up in a self-centered fear of what THEY might lose, and lose focus on the needs of the other person; they end up destroying the very thing they're claiming to try to protect.... No different really from the observation that a lifeguard trying to save a drowning person is likely to drown to death, too, as the victim they're trying to save is flailing wildly, and thus threatens the survival of both....
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00DAD
KS: Or as a sign of respect, we all just could follow the posting guidelines to enhance understanding: 8) Posting in a language other than English.
You just can't help yourself, can you?
I'm sorry you felt "disrespected" because I posted "Thank you very much!" to Angharad in Hungarian.
Give it a rest, seriously!
00DAD
