Should Dub's seen doing street witnessing be shot on sight to put them out of their misery?

by darth frosty 24 Replies latest jw friends

  • rip van winkle
    rip van winkle

    Street walking is not new to NYC, so I don't see it as a problem. Why shoot at a street walker? They provide a service. Who are they hurting?Most encounters that men have with street walkers are pleasant.

    Oh, you said street witnessing. Oh, that's altogether different. There should be a law against unsolicited street witnessing.

  • Glander
    Glander

    when I was 5 or 6 yrs old I stood on the downtown streets of Eureka, Ca with my Grandfather. It was always wet and cold. I wore a canvas magazine bag that hung down to my knees. It was lithographed with "Announcing Jehovah's Kingdom" then below, the "Watchtower and Awake" !0 cents.

    It didn't bother me, I was a baby and went along with whatever. Grandpa always had a few Lifesavers in his pocket and he would hand me one once in awhile. I picked the lint off and munched it happily. Years later I realized why he always had Lifesavers, they were the appropriate "after a slug of Muscatel from the stashed bottle" candy.

  • blondie
    blondie

    Street witnessing without any other jws wasn't too bad. I did not come with old magazines to dump. I did have some tracts and I kept it brief. Most of the time people were on the way to work and did not have time to give. I found lunch time more successful. People had time...I learned to ask viewpoint questions and valued their input. Several asked me why the other jws, well, seemed more interested in selling magazines. I dodged that question but thought to myself that it was the lazy person's way out.

    I can still remember a CO from long ago who encouraged me to use the words of Jesus when talking to people, how would they hear his voice by placing publications. While my goals are different today, that was something that made me think about my approach to people and to notice why other jws were not effective, perhaps on purpose.

    I always wondered why the focus on time slips/hours when the only mention of keeping records was 2 times in the early days of Christians, a general taking attendance. In my years as a pioneer, being around other pioneers and jws, I was amazed how much time was wasted, easy time, people who if they were working on commission, requiring results, would be living on the street. The talking at the meeting of field service for 45 minutes before anyone walked out the door, 45 minutes d2d where no one was home, then 1 hour coffee break, that concluded with an RV on a NH (still NH) and then going home and counting 3 hours.

  • Glander
    Glander

    Blondie, excellent accounting of how 3 hrs. get reported. Sounds familiar. I would only add that a lot of pubs would count 4 hrs, 6 mags. and a book.

    As an elder toting up time slips, it never occured to me to question a single report. That includes placements. It would be impossible to reconcile mag. placements with individual pubs. mag order, etc.

    Thus, the Watchtowers "official" statistics are overstated by a factor of....?

  • rip van winkle
    rip van winkle

    You know, when believed, I never lied on my time slips. I never counted up time I didn't actually work in the ministry. I didn't fake magazine or book placements. When I was out in the field with pios, we never took extended breaks. We didn't hang-out at Starbuck's or McDunkinBurgerKing.

    What I liked about street work was being outdoors, walking, and approaching people who were waiting at bus stops. I didn't approach people who were rushing to get somewhere to hand out mags. But I did use old mags with new mags and I used tracts. It all depended on the conversation. I never did street work that employed standing and just holding a magazine.

    Now, it's a different story. I'm still in.

  • jookbeard
    jookbeard

    cant see a problem with it, machine gun, knife,flame thrower, acid, petrol, they are peddling crap that destroys families, the world isnt any better with them here.

  • Pistoff
    Pistoff

    Mods, pull this thread for the title please

  • Phizzy
    Phizzy

    I do hope they extend the idea of a Sales Station as street witnessing here in the U.K . If they are stuck behind a table of literatrash and I start to reason with them, they cannot run away screaming "Apostate!", they have to stay and listen.

  • darth frosty
    darth frosty

    Really pistoff?!?

    did you not see my disclaimer?

  • steve2
    steve2
    Really pistoff?!?
    did you not see my disclaimer?

    Well yes, in pretty small writing well into the thread. I'm sure you're only being ironic, darth frosty, but unfortunately some witnesses have actually been physically abused or attacked or worse during their work.

    I guess I should view the thread title as not being literal - but it certainly borders on questionable, if not bad, taste.

    As a kid of about 8 or 9 years going on my magazine route alone I was set upon by a group of older boys who fought me to the ground and trashed the Awakes in my satchel. I remember how terrified I felt at the time. I wasn't riding my bike at the time but they tried to damage that as well but I screamed blue murder and they ran off. I tried to keep this ugly small-town incident from my JW parents but they found out and were furious but I'm not sure at what or who. My sensible JW paternal grandfather warned my parents never to let my siblings and I go out by ourselves again. But of course we went alone again - it was never frowned upon the way was in later decades.

    Anyway, just a reflection.

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