Jesus sweating blood

by Simon 11 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • Simon
    Simon

    Just watching a programme about the gospel accounts and one thing struck me - the notion that Jesus sweat blood.

    Apparently it was the stress of his impending death.

    Now, as a sceptic, the problems I have with this account are:

    It's medically impossible to sweat blood.

    There is a disease (hematohidrosis) where plasma cells can color the sweat to make it appear to be 'as if blood'.

    Jesus was supposed to be perfect! Why would he have any disease, let alone and incredibly rare one?

    Other people who are not 'the son of god' have faced far worse deaths and haven't been so terrified.

    Jesus knew he was going to be resurrected. People have given their lives to save others with no such certainty.

    Any thoughts ?

  • Scully
    Scully

    Hi Simon:

    http://www.christianity.com/partner/Article_Display_Page/0,,PTID4859|CHID101265|CIID145207,00.html

    APOLOGETICS

    Sweating Blood

    By Kelly Hollowell, J.D., Ph.D.
    Can anyone ever really anguish to the point of sweating blood?

    Science Ministries - Most Christians are familiar with the events that followed “The Last Supper.” Jesus went out, as usual, to the Mount of Olives. His disciples followed him, and “on reaching a place, he withdrew about a stone’s throw beyond them, knelt down and prayed … and being in anguish, He prayed more earnestly, and His sweat was like drops of blood falling to the ground.”

    The question is, "how are we to understand this short but rather difficult passage?"

    Christians believe that as Jesus went into the Garden at Gethsemane, He was anticipating the coming events of the next day. Certainly, this would have produced a great deal of psychological stress. Still, is it possible that Jesus could have anguished to the point of sweating blood? Or is this simply the product of an overactive imagination?

    Skeptics frequently refer to this passage as one of many that calls the accuracy of Scripture into question. Certainly, if the description of events leading up to the death of Christ cannot be taken at face value, how can anyone believe the account of His resurrection? If untrue, skeptics would be justified in their view of the Bible as little more than a story for imparting good moral conduct on its believers.

    But the writer of this Gospel is Luke. Luke was a well-educated man, a physician by profession, and a loyal friend.(1) His writing is viewed as very articulate and possessing great literary style that clearly demonstrates his command of the Greek language. Not only has archeological research confirmed that he was a careful historian, but the text itself clearly illustrates Luke’s intention to produce an accurate account of the events that occurred.

    “Many have undertaken to draw an account of the things that have been fulfilled among us, just as they were handed down to us by those who, from the first, were eyewitnesses and servants of the word. Therefore, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, it seemed good also to me to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, so that you may also know the certainty of the things you have been taught." (Luke 1:1-4)
    Clearly, Luke is saying that he intends to write accurately about the things he investigated and found to be well supported. Therefore, it seems unlikely that he would have compromised, in any way, the narrative of what he observed that most important night in the Garden of Gethsemane. But can anyone ever really anguish to the point of sweating blood?

    The answer is a resounding yes. There is a very rare phenomenon, a medical condition, in which an individual can, indeed, sweat blood. It is called hematidrosis, and it is associated with a high degree of psychological stress. “What happens is that severe anxiety causes the release of chemicals that break down the capillaries in the sweat glands. As a result, there’s a small amount of bleeding into these sweat glands, and the sweat comes out tinged with blood.”(2)

    So why was Luke the only one to record this aspect of Christ’s suffering? The answer is not known. Clearly, no single account of Christ’s life, as detailed by the Gospel record, is intended to be exhaustive. Each of the gospels appears to focus on different aspects of Jesus’ life. Quite possibly, it is because of Luke’s interest as a physician in this rare physiological phenomenon, that he is the only one to record this aspect of Christ’s suffering.

    In any event, the discovery of this medical condition authenticates the Gethsemane account recorded by Luke. Once again, the Bible is revealed as authentic. Its science is revealed as accurate—and far in advance of its times. But it does far more: It speaks most dramatically of the intense spiritual agony Jesus was suffering as He faced the terrible trauma of death on the cross—of being made sin for the world.

    Notes:
    1) Henry M. Morris, THE DEFENDER’S STUDY BIBLE, p. 1533 (1995).
    2) Lee Strobel, THE CASE FOR CHRIST, THE MEDICAL EVIDENCE, p. 195 (1998).

    I took the liberty to look up hematidrosis in my medical references, and it appears to be such a rare condition that it is not even mentioned except as a definition. There's no current research, no case studies, no pathology to speak of.

    Love, Scully

    UADNA-C (Unseen Apostate Directorate of North America-Canada)

  • refiners fire
    refiners fire

    Jesus wasnt sweating blood because he was badly frightened.
    He was sweating blood because the intensity of his prayers, his closeness to His Heavenly Father was so powerfull at that moment.
    His full faculties were engaged in such power of prayer and communication that...
    You get the point.
    Get outta THAT one!

  • bluesapphire
    bluesapphire

    Simon, regarding:

    Jesus was supposed to be perfect! Why would he have any disease, let alone and incredibly rare one?
    Was Jesus really supposed to be perfect? I think that is leftover Watchtower assumption. Jesus became flesh. Flesh is NEVER perfect. It is corruptible matter.

    As far as his sweating blood goes, how much of the gospels are FACTUAL and how much of them are LITERAL and how much of them are ALEGORY? I don't know. Probably wont know until I die.

    Isn't that the pits!

  • cellomould
    cellomould

    You may wish to correct me if wrong, but I don't believe the Bible at all states Jesus was perfect...

    ...yet another inference.

    cellomould

    "In other words, your God is the warden of a prison where the only prisoner is your God." Jose Saramago, The Gospel According to Jesus Christ

  • Doc_jedd
    Doc_jedd

    How would Luke know what happened wer`nt the disiples supposedly sleeping while Jesus was praying ?
    ............Jedd

  • GWEEDO
    GWEEDO
    Jesus was supposed to be perfect! Why would he have any disease, let alone and incredibly rare one?
    Was Jesus really supposed to be perfect? I think that is leftover Watchtower assumption. Jesus became flesh. Flesh is NEVER perfect. It is corruptible matter.

    Didn't Jesus walk around curing the sick and ill. If he had such a disease as Simon says...then you'd think he'd atleast cure himself. huh?

  • gravedancer
    gravedancer

    Let's say it is possible to sweat blood and lets agree it comes from the worst kind of stress imaginable as the Jesus folk would have us believe...

    One last thing...they always tell us how thew Bible is inspired because of the honesty and candor of its writers....

    So before he sweated blood did he shit in his pants too?

  • Elsewhere
    Elsewhere
    Jesus knew he was going to be resurrected

    You're right... Jebus should have taken this like he was going to take a nap, or at worst, a

    "As every one knows, there are mistakes in the Bible" - The Watchtower, April 15, 1928, p. 126
    Believe in yourself, not mythology.
    <x ><

  • Carmel
    Carmel

    Even in contemporary language, sweating blood refers to a tense situation. Did Jesus experiance anxiety? Yep! Probably perfect anxiety, I'd guess.

    Purely metaphorical my dear Simon!

    Just like the term "son of God" is metaphorical, although literalists xianity would have us believe otherwise.

    carmel "the candy man"

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