Please explain to me why you continue to ignore the comments that I have made about looking at churches and religions was not the entirety of my search---just as studying with JW's was not the entirety of YOUR search.
I did not ignore your comment.
You made no comment about looking at God through Christ. In our conversations, you constantly include 'other' things OVER Christ when discussing God. You have also said that it is bs... to look at Christ, over what the rest of the bible says.
So i am going by your comments.
Yet you continue to ignore all of my comments that don't fit in with what you already believe about this. Perhaps it is because you cannot accept that someone would look to Christ, try to learn about the father through that Christ, try to see evidence of that Christ, and simply conclude that it is not there? You make many assumptions, and ignore all statements to the contrary.
So is that it? You realize that if you want to see God, you must look at His Son : the truth, image, and word of God. But you simply have no evidence that Christ existed?
Because if that is the case, I do not know why we argue so much on the nature of God. We would agree that the nature of God is as Christ showed Him to be... not as the ot, or religions, or Paul, or men, or whatever shows him to be.
Only Christ.
Can you understand my confusion when we have these arguments and you say that it makes no sense to do that, or that it is bs... that you do not understand how i can look at things that way... but then tell me that you do not know where I am getting this idea that you did not do that?
It is tiring. I can understand how this would be hard for you to accept, because you are convinced that Christ talks to you personally. You assume that everyone who goes on the same search will here this voice----or they have done something wrong.
I don't assume anything. I simply do not see from anything that you have ever said, or that we have ever discussed, that you would look at God ONLY through Christ. That you would put everything second other than the Image that Christ gave of His Father.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? I have said that my search INCLUDED looking into churches and religions, but it included a great deal more. It included prayer from my heart, deep thought, asking for help and revelation----it included all of that. Try NOT to dismiss this portion of my comments to fit in with your worldview. And the only thing you CAN say, otherwise you would be wrong, is that my heart was not REALLY in the right place, because if it had been, I would have made contact.
I am not dismissing your prayers, or your asking for help, or anything of the sort.
And I can NOT say why... that is a question that you would have to ask yourself and Him. Same answer as I gave to Jam.
I could ask also why some ask and do not hear, and I think I will. If/when I hear an answer, and can share it, then I will.
Jesus must have a very narrow set of rules to get in touch with him, from your point of view. One wrong piece of information, one idea that is off just a little, no matter the intention, no matter the open heart, and the entire thing tanks. If I go to Jesus and say whatever it is he wants--just show me, and nothing happens because maybe I don't have a good understanding---because THAT is what you blame this entire thing on, that I didn't have a proper understanding--then what can I tell you?
See above. I don't say any of those things.
The only thing i said is that you look at other things besides Christ to see God... when only Christ is the image and truth of God.
I'm not pulling that out of my hat. Otherwise we would not debate about it so often. If you have done that, then it makes no sense to me that you do not understand that I do that. That you would think it is bs.
Your christ is too discerning for me. You say--go to the Christ--that's what you do for answers! So I say, I did go to the Christ, I asked for answers. So you say---well you didn't have the right understanding of christ when you went, so it didn't work! And I say---what the hell do you think I was going to him for? Understanding.
I don't say those things. (go to Christ, yes... but not that you did not have the right understanding, or heart condition, or whatever. I cannot know that about you.)
Peace,
tammy