"Melchizedek" might mean, "My king is Jupiter" or "my God is Jupiter"...

by EndofMysteries 31 Replies latest watchtower bible

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  EndofMysteries

  I just recently learned that in Hebrew, Zedek also means Jupiter. When did this happen is unknown. And possibibly that the planet Jupiter was responsible for some catastrophes and things happening on Earth during that time.

  It's odd and hard to know, the bible itself says how the scribes have written in lies, and speaking of the torah and law, scriptures in the bible seem to say that the scriptures themselves may have corruptions in them. And if Melchizedek was really a priest of pagans worshipping Jupiter, if a lot of the old testament ends up showing that they were also worshipping Baal, Marduk, and the pagans, how did the entire theme of not worshipping other gods, those gods, having idols, etc, all get there.

  On one hand it looks like they were no different then the pagans. Or did all the paganism and paganistic aspects get written in and replaced in 300AD, or even before.

  Anyway, I haven't listed much but wondering if anyone on this board has spent much time looking into the Melchizedek/Jupiter or perhaps it's the first time ever mentioned on this board.
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  mP

  The ancients believed the planets were Gods. They also believed that each they controlled various forces on earth. The jews were no different. This is part of the reason tey adoped names of other gods to represent the god concept because they were the same. Think Amen, Adonai, El etc.
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  J. Hofer

  jupiter being a roman god, this sounds a little strange. for what i know though, the greeks called every main god of other civs zeus. just like the israelites seem to have called pretty much every god other than jhwh baal.
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  NOLAW

  Philo doesn't take the account to be literal. He symbolizes Logos. Gnostics said that he was Jesus Christ.

  BTW: And some of us are accussing the Watchtower talking about the Pleiades:

  Order Of Melchizedek – Sweet Influences Of The Pleiades – Part 2 – 19 May 2012

  Males sense as it shows that the Jews simply borrowed their myths from ancient Greeks and other people.
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  mP

  hfer: Zeus or Dias which is the correct form literally means "God". Notice Dios, Dias etc...

  In the ancient Greek religion, Zeus (Ancient Greek: Ζε?ς , Zeús; Modern Greek: Δ?ας, Días) is the "Father of Gods and men" ( πατ?ρ ?νδρ?ν τε θε?ν τε , pat?r andron te theon te) [3] who rules the Olympians of Mount Olympus as a father rules the family. He is the god of sky and thunder in Greek mythology. His Roman counterpart is Jupiter and Etruscan counterpart is Tinia. His Hindu equivalent is Indra. [citation needed]

  Zeus is the child of Cronus and Rhea, and the youngest of his siblings. In most trad
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  EndofMysteries

  what I meant is supposedly Zedek is the hebrew word for the planet Jupiter, not that the word Zedek translates to Jupiter, just the name in hebrew for that planet. Just like the months, days of the week, etc, are all named differently and not based on what we have today. I think I might try to message and email a rabbi, but I found a few websites discussing this.
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  Phizzy

  As an active JW I found the "Melchizedech" figure to be a strange character, which is probably why Paul liked the story and used it to boost the mythos building up around the "Jesus" figure alive a few years before Paul's epiphany on the road to Damascus.

  I found it strange that in Genesis he was described as a Priest and was approved by YHWH yet there was no Priesthood that is spoken of in any other way in Genesis.

  What was this priesthood, where did they operate, did they have aTemple , if so, why no mention of it ? all these questions went through my mind.

  Since leaving the W.T and researching the Bible , I have begun to realise that nothing is as I thought, and even Abraham may be mainly a fiction.

  But, as with a lot of myth and legend, there is often an historical figure at the base of it, so anything you can find out, E.O.M, will be appreciated.
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  mP

  The funny thing is Melchizedek at the very least was not worshipping Jehovah. Exodus 3 tells us that Abraham himself did not know Jehovah but worshipped a God called El Shaddai or El of the mountain. Since Abraham and Mel knew each other( i hope i got that right) that means neither worshipped Jehovah but somebody else. However if you are conflating all gods into one at your convenience then it all makes sense. If the gods belong to another peoples then they are wrong, but if they are jewish gods then its all fine.
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  Witness My Fury

  Early monotheism of the jews is a myth created by later redactors to finally boost the YHWH cult to the national religion. There are still traces of the earlier polytheist religion in the bible but most of it has been rewritten.

  We now know the early history of the Jews as portrayed in the bible is fiction and is later back filler additions to support a later monotheist position.
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  WTWizard

  I would rather worship Jupiter than Jehovah. At least Jupiter doesn't demand I dedicate my soul eternally to it (the planet), and make such dedication irreversible should I realize the whole thing is a scam or the ruler turns out malevolent.

  And worship the sun, while I am at it. And Satan.