“We will decide who is a predator!” – New Watchtower Instructions to Elders on Child Abuse

by Jaime l de Aragon 104 Replies latest watchtower child-abuse

  • blondie
    blondie

    Yes, the WTS tries to hide behind the CLERGY-penitent law regarding reporting abusers (despite that the WTS says they don't have a clergy class). But not all states excuse this under all and any circumstances.

    http://www.childwelfare.gov/systemwide/laws_policies/statutes/clergymandated.cfm

    The chart below ( SEE WEBSITE) summarizes how States have or have not addressed the issue of clergy as mandated reporters (either specifically or as part of a broad category) and/or clergy-penitent privilege (either limiting or denying the privilege) within their reporting laws.

    Privilege granted but limited to pastoral communicationsPrivilege denied in cases of suspected child abuse or neglectPrivilege not addressed in the reporting laws
    Clergy enumerated as mandated reportersAlabama, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Illinois, Louisiana, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nevada, New Mexico, North Dakota, Ohio, Oregon, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Vermont, WisconsinNew Hampshire, West VirginiaConnecticut, Mississippi
    Clergy not enumerated as mandated reporters but may be included with "any person" designationDelaware, Florida, Idaho, Kentucky, Maryland, Utah, WyomingNorth Carolina, Oklahoma, Rhode Island, TexasIndiana, Nebraska, New Jersey, Tennessee, Puerto Rico
    Neither clergy nor "any person" enumerated as mandated reportersVirginia, Washington 5Not applicableAlaska, American Samoa, District of Columbia, Georgia, Guam, Hawaii, Iowa, Kansas, New York, Northern Mariana Islands, South Dakota, Virgin Islands

    To access the statutes for a specific State or territory, visit the State Statutes Search .

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    http://www.silentlambs.org/education/92_murder_letter.cfm

    *** w77 3/15 pp. 191-192 Questions From Readers ***

    The Bible advises Christians to obey the laws of the land in all matters where there is no conflict with God’s law. (Rom. 13:1; Acts 5:29) The apostle explained that by doing this we will not need to fear punishment from the authorities who punish lawbreakers. Also, we can thus have a clear conscience.—Rom. 13:3-5.

    Still, God’s Word does not charge the Christian congregation, through its overseers, with the obligation to become acquainted with all the details of civil and criminal law so as to enforce these. We can see this in how Paul handled the case of Onesimus.

    Onesimus was a slave of a Colossian Christian named Philemon. For some selfish reason Onesimus fled to Rome so he could lose himself in the masses of people there; he may even have robbed his master before fleeing. In Rome as a runaway slave (Latin, fugitivus) Onesimus came in contact with Paul, became a Christian and ministered to Paul. In time the apostle urged Onesimus to return to his legal master, Paul even encouraging Philemon to receive Onesimus as a brother and to treat him kindly.—Philem. 8-22.

    Take note that while Onesimus was in Rome the apostle Paul did not hand him over to the Roman authorities for punishment as a fugitive slave and possibly a thief. We know from his writings that Paul believed that a Christian should obey the law of the land, but plainly he did not consider it the congregation’s duty to serve as an arm of the government in policing individuals’ lives. Also, we can observe that Onesimus’ situation was not treated as a barrier to his getting baptized. Eventually Onesimus, likely motivated by counsel such as had been written earlier in Romans 13:1-5 and by Paul’s personal urgings, chose to return to his legal master.

    The Christian congregation today follows a course harmonious with this Biblical pattern. It does not, before allowing a person to get baptized or continue in the congregation, check to see if someone’s home meets every detail of the building code, whether he has satisfied every detail as to his legal status in the country, and so forth.

    *** w86 10/1 Questions From Readers ***

    “Questions From Readers,” The Watchtower of June 1, 1968.

    Elders in the Christian congregation are responsible to handle violations of divine law, such as stealing, murder, and immorality. But God did not require congregation elders to enforce Caesar’s laws and codes. Hence, Paul did not feel compelled to turn over to Roman authorities Onesimus, who was a fugitive under Roman law. (Philemon 10, 15) Of course, if someone flagrantly violates secular law, gaining the reputation of being a lawbreaker, he would not be a good example and might even be disfellowshipped. (1 Timothy 3:2, 7, 10) If lawbreaking was involved in causing another’s death, bloodguilt requiring congregation investigation might result.

  • sd-7
    sd-7

    Wow. This means that whatever is decided, WT HQ is assuming direct involvement now and direct responsibility for whatever goes wrong. I would say they will have even less wiggle room if something should go wrong in such a scenario. But they are asking for more intense scrutiny/involvement with local matters.

    Interesting that they recommend an experienced elder from the circuit to be chairman of a committee under some circumstances. Kind of an admission of how inadequately prepared a lot of the elders are for this stuff. Well, I hope this ends up opening the doors for more direct legal liability for the Society.

    --sd-7

  • Violia
    Violia

    They arrogantly give the legal system the finger. They are the WTBS and have Jehovah's projection, after all. And any persecution after this is proof they are true Christians. I am so glad I no who to call when a crime is committed. Billy is so right, call the police is all that needed to be said.

  • Billy the Ex-Bethelite
    Billy the Ex-Bethelite

    And for as often as they keep repeating "call the branch," how often is it happening that elders hear an accusation and they fail to call either the police or the branch? It keeps sounding to me like there must be many cases where the local BoEs are completely protecting molesters and not even reporting it to the branch until someone else has called the police.

  • JW GoneBad
    JW GoneBad

    I say Amen to the following quote from Cedars’ letter about the JW Elder who shared the October 1, 2012 BOE letter:

    ‘This letter, which must have been leaked by a conscientious elder, proves that there is a growing movement of unsettled elders who know there is something deeply wrong about the organization, and are starting to find the courage to do something about it.

    I salute the honesty, bravery and conscientiousness of whichever elder forwarded this letter to my colleagues for our analysis and distribution to others. Whoever did this has real courage and is to be greatly admired for putting the needs of Witness children first above everything else.’

  • Jaime l de Aragon
    Jaime l de Aragon

    REGARDING OCTOBER 2012, FIRST, WATCHTOWER, the mother corporation over Jehovah's Witnesses and with many corporate branches, greatly fears upcoming news exposure over their hiding pedophiles. They not only lost the Conti case but have had to pay 25-30 million dollars settlements likely to hit major news. Australia's Government will hold hearings at which Steven Unthank and 20 other ExJehovah's Witnesses will make stunning revelations about horrific Watchtower pedophilia, disfellowshipping and harassment.

    Watchtower's annual meeting of delegates will occur with possible sparks behind the curtains as it is said to secretly include never-Jehovah's Witness representatives of 22 or so of the many branch corporations, with the 22 paying out stock to non-JWs. Those stockholders may be mad about some of Watchtower's money going to build a new headquarters instead of right into their parasitic pockets. Most all of this was noted on the Six Screens phone conference network 9-22-2012.

    Following are two useful links concerning Watchtower's money, its investments etc. Be sure to read or at least skim what's on them if you really want to know what's going on. It's very possible that October will bring along some other surprises so be returning to this website for more news and views at that time too.

    By http://www.christianwitnesses.com/index.html

    CASH COWS & MONEY TRAILS OF WATCHTOWER #1

    CASH COWS AND MONEY TRAILS OF WATCHTOWER #2

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  • yadda yadda 2
    yadda yadda 2

    A hopelessly inadequate response to the Conti case. Their pharasaical legalism and blindness and arrogance is just staggering. They are expecting elders to be psychologists and criminologists and lawyers, trying to determine if a paedophile is 'repentant' and a 'predator' or not. For goodness sake just call the police and chuck the two-goddam-witness rule out the window.

  • Vidqun
    Vidqun

    Yadda, they have a problem recruiting new elders and MS as it is. They don't want some of them ending up in prison, do they? As previous threads brought out, even if an elder admits to wrongdoing many years ago, and Jehovah blesses him, then he's all right. And nobody will confess their pedophile habits when they know they will be reported (and end up in prison). No, the children will continue to suffer and predators/pedophiles will continue to flourish. They will give out enough rope, eventually to hang themselves. Soon, I hope!

  • Aussie Oz
    Aussie Oz

    Is the bolding in the PDF downloaded, the watchtowers or the leakers?

    Oz

  • Aussie Oz
    Aussie Oz

    15.

    Who is considered a known child molester? The January 1, 1997, Watchtower arti-cle "Let Us Abhor What Is Wicked" mentions on page 29 that a man "known to have been a child molester" does not qualify for privileges in the congregation. The expression "known to have been a child molester" has reference to how such a man is considered in the community and in the Chris-tian congregation. In the eyes of the congregation, an adult "known" to be a former child molester is not "free from accusation" or "irreprehensible," nor does he have "a fine testimony from people on the outside." (1 Tim. 3:1-7, 10; 5:22; Titus 1:7) In view of his past, those in the community would not respect him and congregation members might be stumbled over his appointment. Keep in mind that the branch office, not the local body of elders, determines whether one who has sexually abused a child is considered a known child molester.

    Q. How can a person ''be a KNOWN child molester'' in the eyes of the congregation if th congregation are not told that so and so that just moved in has a history (even once) of this crime?

    oz

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