City Contributes $150,000 to Jehovah’s Witnesses Convention

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  • TJ Curioso
    TJ Curioso

    City Contributes $150,000 to Jehovah’s Witnesses Convention

    By ARIELLA MONTI October 22, 2012 | Posted in: City Council, News, The Latest | 0 Responses

    During a closed session a month ago Raleigh City Councilors approved a $150,000 contribution to the Christian Congregation of Jehovah’s Witnesses convention that will be held next year at the PNC Arena.

    The city has been contributing money toward the event since it first came to Raleigh seven years ago.

    “This is not new,” said City Manager Russell Allen. He said the event has been built into the city’s annual budget for awhile.

    The approval came during a closed session after the regular Sept. 18 City Council meeting. The meeting minutes obtained by the Record, posted below, read, “City Manager Allen stated the Council knew his feelings about the request.”

    He declined when asked to elaborate on those feelings during a later interview.

    The Greater Raleigh Convention and Visitor’s Bureau and the Centennial Authority also contribute funding to the convention.

    Dave Olsen, PNC Arena general manager, said that this is the only religiously affiliated event at the area that has a partnership with the city, the visitor’s bureau and the Centennial Authority.

    Allen said that other religiously-affiliated groups and organizations typically use the convention center and could qualify for similar business development funding or discounts. But, this is the only event that is held at the arena and also receives some public funding.

    According to the backup documents provided with the meeting minutes, the convention received a total of $275,000 in 2011.

    The funding covers a portion of the arena rental plus expenses, said Olsen.

    The convention is held over the course of two weekends during the mid-summer, when, Olsen said, business at the arena is slow. He said each day of the convention brings in about 10,000 people.

    “They have been, specifically through these rough economic times, pretty consistent in attendance and the amount of money they bring to the local economy,” he said. “They’ve been pretty solid from a business standpoint all seven years.”

    According to city documents, the projected revenue from the 2011 event in hotel and food and beverage sales is $7.8 million. The projected tax revenue – including sales taxes – amounts to about $301,000.

    Councilor Mary-Ann Baldwin said the city will contribute money to organizations that bring in that kind of economic boost to the city, especially during a slow season like August. She said that similar events include the CIAA tournament, which the city recently lost to Charlotte and the Ironman triathlon, which will be coming in the future.

    The Give Back

    In return, the group usually performs some kind of community service project at the arena.

    Typically, Olsen said, the group will clean the building and the grounds for free, saving the arena money from hiring an outside contractor. In the past the group has also planted trees throughout the property.

    But this year City Councilors say they want to see more outreach into the community.

    Baldwin explained that in the past the City Council would encourage and suggest that the group to partner with other organizations in the community, but wouldn’t require it. The Jehovah’s Witnesses would instead perform some other kind of service work.

    This year, she said they decided to tie the funding directly to the completion of a community service.

    Councilors gave the group three options including providing support or volunteers for a local Habitat for Humanity project, Helping Hands Mission relocation or a food or clothing drive for one of the city’s food banks or shelters. The group could suggest its own partnership, but it must be approved by the City Council.

    http://www.raleighpublicrecord.org/news/city-council/2012/10/22/city-contributes-150000-to-jehovahs-witnesses-convention/

  • Doubting Bro
    Doubting Bro

    I just saw this as well. I agree that its not all that unusual for cities and vistors bureaus to contribute to things like this. However, I'll bet the WTS keeps the cash while asking for donations to cover the entire amount. For the city, it seems like they're still getting a decent deal.

    BUT, I love the fact that the city council wants JWs to do ACTUAL charity work. Cleaning the center is fine and it does certainly lower the cost but this part is awesome "providing support or volunteers for a local Habitat for Humanity project, Helping Hands Mission relocation or a food or clothing drive for one of the city’s food banks or shelters. The group could suggest its own partnership, but it must be approved by the City Council."

    You know as well as I do that the WTS will comply given how much they love money. I wonder how they'll do it? I think it would be great if other cities followed Raleigh's lead and put some more strings on giving groups like JWs financial assistance so they can hold their meetings/conventions.!!

  • Theocratic Sedition
    Theocratic Sedition

    I never realized how much money these conventions generate towards the cities. Organized Religion is truly big business.

  • perfect1
    perfect1

    Haha, JWs will never actually HELP PEOPLE with COMMUNITY SERVICE!

    Good luck city. I think in WTS terms, this is a harlot dancing with a King of the Earth arrangement.

  • Scully
    Scully

    So, let me get this straight:

    The WTS / local JWs petition the city to cover a portion of the cost of the use of the facility and then have the audacity to expect JWs to donate toward the use of the facility, without informing them that the City kicked in a pile of cash already?

    What I want to know is this:

    Do they even factor in the amount of the city's donation? or is that conveniently omitted from the Accounts Report™ that's read from the platform on Saturday morning to remind everyone how much they "owe" for the Privilege™ of coming to the Convention™??

  • Londo111
    Londo111

    Unless it's a 'Watchtowers For the Homeless' program, I doubt they'd do a lick of work to "prop up Satan's system of things".

  • undercover
    undercover

    In return, the group usually performs some kind of community service project at the arena.

    Typically, Olsen said, the group will clean the building and the grounds for free, saving the arena money from hiring an outside contractor. In the past the group has also planted trees throughout the property.

    But this year City Councilors say they want to see more outreach into the community.

    Baldwin explained that in the past the City Council would encourage and suggest that the group to partner with other organizations in the community, but wouldn’t require it. The Jehovah’s Witnesses would instead perform some other kind of service work.

    Outreach into the community. Silly Raleigh city council. Don't they know that the JW door to door ministry IS their outreach into the community?

    I started to say, "Good luck getting them to agree to partnering with other organizations. The WTS ain't gonna agree to anything like that." But then remembered - this is the same organization that became an approved NGO associated with the United Nations because it suited their needs at the time. Principles and ethics be damned. They'll do it, if it will save them money, or get them a better deal on the lease... and the best part for them is that they'll have their volunteers in Raleigh(read: dumb dubs) do it all, and headquarters won't have to lift a finger.

  • Doubting Bro
    Doubting Bro

    It would be so easy to send a RBC crew to help one weekend with a Habitat for Humanity house. It wouldn't cost them a thing and would be good PR. There is no way they are not going to comply for 150k??

  • AnneB
    AnneB

    Partner with The World??? They'll do it. It will probably be something like providing "covered dish" meals on a building site...and having a literature table right there with it.

  • Aussie Oz
    Aussie Oz

    HAHAHAHA!

    now if they want the money they have to act like a real charity! Bet they hurts shmucks.

    oz

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