by turtleturtle 41 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
Maisha
"actualy his comments are as credible as anyone elses on this sites!. probably more so!. It is interesting how the ones that hit at him are the ones that have NEVER BEEN JW's"
Not sure whether you are suggesting I have never been a JW here...
As for credibility - I think you need to look at the definition of credible!
TempleJah said "A point being all this xGB and occultic "evidence" is for a linear, point a-sin to point b-stumble, distractive reason from this MOL, for people to stumble and leave the JW organization or never come to the truth that is also here, (RATHER than SEE it is prophetic guarantee! It is GOOD news!), hence why Satan is here doing subversive, masterfully deceptive works, as per prophecy of 2Thess2:3-12 in 2Cor11:13-15 disguised mode of operation; (See Zech3:1 "Satan standing" IN the xGB "right hand")"
I am interested to know what you think about those that have left the organization or have considered returning and chosen not to be part of this JW organization as led by the current GB? It is impossible for me (and many others) to contemplate returning to it. It is not good enough to advise a person to just beware of not putting too much trust and obedience in them because this is the very thing they expect if one is to consider themselves a JW.
Temple, I hope to see more of your exposés.
I am curious, though, are you an exJW or a JW reformer?
temple believes he ALONE is Jesus reincarnated, look up larsinger58 posts, his prophecy for himself requires that JW's were pure and only God's people until like 1990 or something. He ignores that they became fully corrupt when Rutherford took over by force since that messes up his prophecy about himself. He makes a bunch of different user names then to throw people off when they detect that stuff as completely untrue and ridiculous.
I see. If I may ask, where did you learn about the Illuminati? It isn't stuff the Watchtower teaches.
Thanks for your answer Templejah. I very much agree that being aware of what is going on will make it much easier to recognize the proper thecratic authority. It does bother me when I consider Adam and Eve, Eve was decieved and she was perfect.
There is much of the JW teachings that you believe and I am wondering if you go along with the idea that the 144,000 is a literal figure even though there must have been many more believers in the true God from the time of Jesus' presence on Earth? Also, Revelation discusses the 12 tribes individually making up the 144,000 (12,000 in each tribe). Do you have any thoughts as to what each of the tribes represents?
I understand that there is a special group of anointed that will reign with Jesus which could be compared to the Levites but I don't think that limits there being other anointed ones (or born again) who will not be Kings and Priests but rather form part of God's chosen people.
I'm stunned, I am just looking at a website that discusses the illuminati. There are pages and pages discussing it and in the introduction it is stated that their are 13 bloodlines in particular that are the illuminati (their main aim is to control the world as the NWO). This is the list of the 13 bloodlines:
1. Astor
2. Bundy
3. Collins
4. DuPont
5. Freeman
6. Kennedy
7. Li (Chinese)
8. Onassis
9. Rockefeller
10. Rothschild
11. Russell
12. van Duyn
13. Merovingian (European Royal Families)
The Russell line that is mentioned is the very JW Charles T Russell. It is no wonder the GB is distancing itself from him with their new light (funny but that relates very well with enlightenment - illuminati) regarding the identity of the FDS.
My daughter has been asking me to seriously research more about the Illumanti as she herself has been. She is shocked and can now see evidence of it everywhere.
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/the_russell_bloodline.htm
Indeed, Listener, Much of the above info you posted was gleaned from Fritz Springmeier's work in the '80s and '90s. As you may know, he authored The Watchtower and the Masons. The WT does appear to be distancing itself from its compromising connections to Freemasonry, namely through Russell and his pyramid fetish. Now, pyramid fetishism is absoloutely everywhere, as you may have noticed from these two threads:
WT and the Illuminati - truth or fiction?
666 "AOK" Hand Sign in The Watchtower of May 1, 2012
Researching the Illuminati is not only very interesting, it becomes a way of learning how to discern just what the heck is what in these deceptive times.
I'd like to know if ANYONE actually reads the incoherent and rambling posts of tempelijah. These consipiracy theories drive me nuts. I'm sort of embarassed for the people that believe them. But I guess it's good to get all the crazies in one place so they don't hijack the other threads.
There is some truth in his ramblings, Christ Alone. It would be easy to ridicule him, but why not engage him on the things he gets right? And, he is polite.
I wonder, do you consider me one of the crazies?
There are conspiracy facts, and then conspiracy theories. To reject all conspiracies is itself crazy and dismissive. For men conspire (two or more) all the time. And Satan is the great conspirator against the Church. Christian Orthodoxy actually makes better sense of world conspiracies, as opposed disinformation shills like Alex Jones. Instead of there being a bunch of conspiracies spread out, the Church has always taught that they are all part of a grand plot against the Church. (See the late Maurice Pinay's The Plot Against the Church http://www.catholicvoice.co.uk/pinay/).
