I'm screwed.......... (page 2)

2SYN

You're not a man, so I can't exactly tell you to stop thinking with your crotch, but maybe you are!

I wish I could come to America to sort you out, woman. Damnit.

But for now I will just be in your presence as a small snippet of HTML code.

So hear me out.

THIS IS GOING TO END IN DISASTER.

How can you even consider seeing a Dub man? You do know that his religion ingrains in his mind the fact that you are a subservient half-person don't you? Surely you've read my other rantings on this very topic?

More than that I can't say without knowing the details of the situation. Maybe you could 'turn him away from the Truth'? Come on...his your feminine wiles on the guy, get him the hell out of the KH on meeting nights, and soon he'll break.

"...the greater will be the beneficial effect, because you get more of the ultra-violet rays, which are healing" - The Golden Age
[SYN], UADA - Unseen Apostate Directorate of Africa.

refiners fire

hmmmm.
I was thinkin the same thing myself.
If hes goin out with a woman like you Buta....he cant be any TOO SPIRITUAL!
Lure him into sin and fornication.
Shouldnt be hard to do for a girl of your enormous talent.
Get him involved in the real world of love and desire, and his God will quickly fall off the list of concerns for priority.
After all, his God isnt even REAL. You are!!
Course, youll have to drag yourself through the trauma of his losing his faith,his leaving the church, etc.
Tedious. VERY tedious.

jerome

I dont think that playing on his emotions will work so it dosent make any sense telling him that you are doing this for his own good.

When you do decide to try that ploy it may back fire at first. But then you could use the fact that he dident care enough to listen to you in the future.

You have been here for over a year so you should know what to do.

You know that you have to go slow, you know that what they teach only
appears to be right on the outside but when you lookinto it that it is never what it seemed to be. Even though i spend alot of time here I still have flashes of doubt that it isnt the truth. This site is my saftey net.

You got the info, you got the help.

I dont have much experience in relationships but it seems that you are in a good position to get him out.

Once you can get him to listen.

But like someone on the board once said, dont drop the dime if you anit got the time.

jerome -- former troll

The Bible is a two edged sword wield it for evil and it you may get hurt.

expatbrit

Butalbee:

Do you really want to go back into a relationship with this person, knowing that you will never be the most important thing in his life? Are you content to play second fiddle to the Watchtower Society in his affections?

Please think carefully.

Expatbrit

ozziepost

Refiners Fire,

You've impressed me immensely with your words. The most impressive from you IMHO. Thanks sincerely.

Butalbee,

You have our sympathy and compassion. No-one, not a Dub nor an exDub should tell you what you are to do. It's your heart which is involved and perhaps it's in conflict with your mind. I can only say that if you have a faith, talk to God about it. Do it before you get in too deep! Please.

Cheers,
Ozzie

"If our hopes for peace are placed in the hands of imperfect people, they are bound to evaporate."

- Ron Hutchcraft Surviving the Storms of Stress

Scully

butalbee:

hon, i just read your initial post in this thread and wanted to respond before i rush out the door. hopefully i'm not repeating something that's already been said.

if you want to have some incentive for dumping this guy like a bag of warm doo-doo, just remember that in 20 years' time, he's going to be EXACTLY like your "friend", Elder WartNose.

Lots of Love, Scully

JBean

OK NOW BEE! Listen UP!!!! I just HAVE to post this before I finish reading the rest of the comments because I'm so anxious to tell you to NOTTTTTT go back to the K. Hall with your ex. Don't misunderstand me... have a relationship with him if you love each other, but DO NOT let him drag you into the JW's. You need to hear my story: I am still technically a JW but haven't been to a meeting in months and months and months (a year? wow, maybe...) anyhow... I have been seriously involved with my boyfriend for about 2 years now (still keeping it hidden from my JW family 'cos I don't want the grief... yeah, I know, I'm a wimp) BUT... and here's the clincher-- up until about a year ago, I was trying at EVERY TURN to get my bfriend to study... to a meeting, etc. I tried EVERY line of sneaky reasoning I could... but to no avail (thank God for that now...). What was it that made me WAKE UP and see the "light"? HIS ACTIONS (they DO speak louder than words, ya know!) : ) He is a very spiritual person (tho' not religious). He always refuted my scriptural (cough, cough) arguments about how true the "Truth" was with common sense and love. He basically believes that everyone can have a one-on-one relationship with the creator, and if there is a judgement day down the road, each individual will be judged according to how they've lived their lives and how they've loved others. Period. He actually LIVES this!!! After a while, his love and kindness towards everyone totally overshadowed what ANY witness personality or action. It took a looooonnnnngggg time, believe me, but I'm so glad he didn't "cave" and start into the JW lifestyle just for me. So... what's my point? Well, I'm living proof that time and patience and LOVE can work if you put yourself into it. Never give up but DO NOT let him even think for a SECOND that you'll convert into the JW's. That's just prolonging misery, in my opinion. You will find out soon enuf if he REALLY loves you. If he gives up on YOU, then you know he's not the one. So please try to live your life, especially when it comes to conversations and time spent with him, the best you possibly can. Focus on YOUR spirituality (everyone has some of it, ya know) and make him see that THIS is how to truly live. Hope this helps and doesn't hinder! : ) Best of luck to you!

MavMan

Interesting comments all, isn't this brainwashing?

Miss Butalbee follow you heart whereever it leads you.

Hope everything goes well...

JBean

Goodmornin', MavMan... I just want to say that was EXCELLENT advice. Truly. I should've been more simplistic myself, but I'm just too close to this type of situation right now. : )

TR

Hey Bee,

Try putting some confidense in yourself. The desire to be loved by someone is great, but you should put more effort into YOU.

TR

I'm screwed..........

"If our hopes for peace are placed in the hands of imperfect people, they are bound to evaporate."

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