by donny 34 Replies latest watchtower bible
The New World Translation says 'On Saturday night, in our assembling for the breaking of bread, Paul, who was to leave the next day.'"
The word "Saturday" does not appear in the JW's "New World Translation".
Also, if you do a search in the JW NWT on the WT-CD for that phrase, you won't find it.
There may be some other translation that goes by that name, or a similar name.
I don't think they are referring to the JW "New World Translation".
Having worked with a devout SAD for a few years, I can tell you that they still claim to follow Old Testment laws/rules, or some of them, anyway. No pork. Jewish Holidays (as has been mentioned). Things like that. She took their Sabbath very seriously. No tv or anything from Friday sun down to Saturday sun down.
Also, I had a phychiarist a few years back that told me there are more people right now turning to these very restrictive religions with a lot of rules than ever before. Of course, he was Amish. Yes, Amish.
JW, Mormon, Adventist, Amish, Catholic...
just different brands of crazy...
Crazy yes, but if you are going to have a doctrinal fixation, I guess insisting on going to church on Saturday (to the point of practical madness) is preferable to killing your members with a no blood transfusion doctrine.
The adventists also highly value higher education - many of their members are encouraged to go into the medical profession and attend medical school.
I was told by an ex-member that they are facing the same problem as the JWs - many of their young people are leaving the church, and very few are willing to stay. They are possibly a more vulnerable aging church population than even the JWs.
Good incisive point James - I agree!
Another poster said:
I'd like to see the official policy SDA's have on disfellowshiping/excommunication and whether there is still freedom to talk to the expelled person
Can I say one very annoying feature of the SDAs is how "waffly" their church policies are. At least the Watchtower makes its venom clear and known; flick open the Watchtower and there is an overtly judgmental view on almost anything they disapprove of. You are not left guessing.
By irritating contrast, I have read treatises and watched DVDs in which SDA leaders struggle with beads of spiritual sweat to please all sides of an issue and end up saying a variation of '6 of this and half a dozen of the other'. Yes, but what are your views, minister?
It is only much later as you ruminate over their tortured prose, that you realize they are very, very subtly putting down alternative views. Also, SDAs at heart are extremely "treacly" - prone to drive a point home by use of "aw shucks" stories of what speaks to them about how Jesus would have responded. Please - spare me the Adventists advertorials - kind of like, anyone who disagrees with us does not really know the Christ. Double please!
While I intensely dislike the mind set of the Watchtower's pompous arrogance, I at least have a "grudging"admiration for their ability to clearly nail their colours to the mast. Beats oozing, sticky 'everyone's-so-happy' treacle that informs much SDA discourse.
The New English Bible published in 1961 renders Acts 20:7: “On the Saturday night, in our assembly for the breaking of bread, Paul, who was to leave the next day, addressed them, and went on speaking until midnight.”
Taken from http://www.truthmagazine.com/the-lords-supper-onsaturday-night
Saturdays really suck if you are a Seventh Day Adventist or a JW
As a former Adventist I may be able to help here.
Jwop, All christians are taken to heaven at the second comming.
The lake of fire is where the satan and also the wicked are punished at the end of the thousand years. This is not a punishment for ever and ever but only for a time determined by God.
jThe paradise on earth is for the faithful after the thousand years.
Yadda Yadda, I beleive most Adventists would see shunning as unchristian I have not experianced it and I haven't even heard of it being used.
Da Cheech, Adventists only observe the sabbath not the other jewish festivals. The reason Adventists have the sabbath is because its on e of the ten commandments and separate from the rest of the jewish law. Barry
Another poster stated: "Interestingly, William Miller was friends with Charles Taze Russell – the founder of the Bible Students, from which the Jehovah's Witnesses branched off."
It would be helpful to learn the source of this statement as William Miller died in December 1849 and Charles Taze Russell wasn't born until February 1852. So if Miller and Russell were friends, Russell would have needed to enlist the aid of spiritists to contact the dead Miller. If someone has proof of this it would further damage the credibility of the Watchtower's founder.
Athanasius,
Thanks for that.
CT Russell was for a time involved with a group that called themselves the Second Adventists, who - like the SDA - had emerged from the wreckage of William Miller's 1844 fiasco. Whether, though, he was exactly "friends" with the Second Adventist's Nelson Barbour could be open to question.
Bill.
