The Vatican New World Order

by Infowarrior 40 Replies latest watchtower scandals

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  NoStonecutters

  Satanus, Judaism, which is not based in the Old Testament but the Talmud and the Kabbalah, is very different from Christianity. Judaism is monistic while Christianity is dualistic. There is no harmony between the Old Testament and the Talmud. Judaism was created in reaction to Christianity. That's why Judaism has been a revolutionary force in the world for more than 2,000 years.

  An example of Judaism's monism is in the Kabbalah, which views good and evil as coming from the same source, being equal and necessary for the elevation of man to divinity (the source of the chosen race complex for both Judaism and Nazism). The obvious result of this belief is that engaging in evil is not considered "bad" but necessary. The ends justifies the means.

  Christianity, on the other hand, sees good and evil as deriving from different sources, or more specifically, evil derives from the lack of God, and God is totally sovereign. The Old Testament is also, of course, dualistic. In Christianity, God has no part in evil and, instead, distances Himself from it. For to partake in evil would compromise His very being, His nature.
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  Infowarrior

  you guys have good points. it certainly is a bit hard to pinpoint the state of world affairs. what is certain is that im not in a rush to be a servant of the Watchtower or any other religous corporation.
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  Satanus

  'I believe we are experiencing cultural decline at an ever increasing rate. Everything is become very bland, stale, and dark. But what would one expect when everything of value is being dispensed with in the name of progress?'

  It's evolutionary pressures. It is a swing toward materialism away from spiritual. However, if the spirit aspect is real, it won't dissappear. As well, there is a homogenization of all of the world's cultures. I see this as a good thing, although painful. It's the ultimate test of what is real.

  'We are slowly inching towards a world totalitarian system, which we are unlikely to ever recover from. 1984 is here and will get worse.'

  A one world govt/system is inevitable, imo. That is because the truth underlying the universe is that all is one. The christian idea of good and evil as separate entities is false, not real, imo. And so, it is one of christianity's geat weaknesses. We all have the good and evil inside. It's not 'out there', as embodied in satan. Refusing to accept their own evil AS their own is why americans feel so unsure, imo. Facing and accepting the contents of their shadow selves is first step forward, imo.

  Anyhow, individual governorship, a true community of man w little govt comes AFTER the one world govt phase.

  So, you see the steps, nostone? Tribalism to nationstate to empires to one world govt, and then totally back to individualism. Perhaps govt will become mostly redundent at that time. Individualism can only come in after each individual has accepted that the norm is self government, so to speak. We are currently in the nation state to world govt phase, where all tribalism, nationalism and cultism that separate us from humanity are being dissolved.

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  Nostone

  Just read your latest post after i made my post. That judaism was a reaction against christianity makes sense. Understandable too, since christians basically stole their religion from jews through the romans.

  I guess, you and i likely disagree on which is true, dualism or monism. All i can say is, my views are based on my personal experinces and amateur investigations of into history, religion and some philosophy.

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  NoStonecutters

  Yes, I see the steps, but I see them as sinister, although not on your part but rather with the power elite. Everything your saying was put to paper in Masonic and Marxist manifestos over the last 300 years or so. I want no part in them personally. I think the promise of elevation and enlightenment is merely a dangling carrot. Remember that, in Christianity, evil is not an entity, and Satan is not equal to God. Satan is a mere fallen angel and evil is the absence of good, the abesence of God.

  Privatio Boni

  The privation of good (Latin: privatio boni) is a theological doctrine that evil, unlike good, is insubstantial, so that thinking of it as an entity is misleading. Instead, evil is rather the absence or lack ("privation") of good.[1][2][3]
  
  It is typically attributed to St. Augustine of Hippo, who wrote:
  
  And in the universe, even that which is called evil, when it is regulated and put in its own place, only enhances our admiration of the good; for we enjoy and value the good more when we compare it with the evil. For the Almighty God, who, as even the heathen acknowledge, has supreme power over all things, being Himself supremely good, would never permit the existence of anything evil among His works, if He were not so omnipotent and good that He can bring good even out of evil. For what is that which we call evil but the absence of good? In the bodies of animals, disease and wounds mean nothing but the absence of health; for when a cure is effected, that does not mean that the evils which were present—namely, the diseases and wounds—go away from the body and dwell elsewhere: they altogether cease to exist; for the wound or disease is not a substance, but a defect in the fleshly substance,—the flesh itself being a substance, and therefore something good, of which those evils—that is, privations of the good which we call health—are accidents. Just in the same way, what are called vices in the soul are nothing but privations of natural good. And when they are cured, they are not transferred elsewhere: when they cease to exist in the healthy soul, they cannot exist anywhere else. [4]

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absence_of_good

  Our perceptions are based on contrast, so that light and dark, good and evil, are imperceptible without each other; in this context, these sets of opposites show a certain symmetry. But a basic study of optics teaches us that light has a physical presence of its own, whereas darkness does not: no "anti-lamp" or "flashdark" can be constructed which casts a beam of darkness onto a surface that is otherwise well-lit. Instead, darkness only appears when sources of light are extinguished or obscured, and only persists when an object absorbs a disproportionate amount of the light that strikes it.
  
  The relationship between light and darkness is often used to frame a metaphorical understanding of good and evil. This metaphor can be used to answer[citation needed] the problem of evil: If evil, like darkness, does not truly exist, but is only a name we give to our perception of privatio boni, then our widespread observation of evil does not preclude the possibility of a benevolent, omniscient, and omnipresent God.
  
  If the metaphor can be extended, and good and evil share the same asymmetry as light and darkness, then evil can have no source, cannot be projected, and, of itself, can offer no resistance to any source of good, no matter how weak or distant. In this case, goodness cannot be actively opposed, and power becomes a consequence of benevolence. However, in this case evil is the default state of the universe, and good exists only through constant effort; any lapse or redirection of good will apparently create evil out of nothing.

  "Augustine's belief that 'sickness and wounds are nothing but the privation of health', seems logical when it comes to illness, and may work on a number of levels elsewhere. However, if this is the case, where did evil (or the ability for things to become corrupted), first begin? Well as far as Augustine is concerned, evil entered the world as a result of the wrong choices of free beings (free in the sense that there was no external force necessitating them to do wrong). In other words, corruption occurred as a result of freewill...God, although omnipotent, omniscient and all-good, and despite creating the world and everything in it to be good, is innocent when it comes to the presence of sin and evil in the heavens and the earth, as this occurred as the result of the freedom for both humanity and the angels, to make their own decisions."
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  Satanus

  I like those quotes. The darkness/evil was chrarcterized as the shadow self by jung, i believe. In essence, in facing it, as in the light and darkness illustration, it dissappears. Darkness dissappears when light hits it. So, the shadow self, when we dive in. It needs to be done many times, though.

  However, at least in protestantism and cults like the jws, satan is personified evil. That seems somewhat different from your statement ' Remember that, in Christianity, evil is not an entity, and Satan is not equal to God.' Is that the catholic idea?

  At any rate, the level of fear that christians feel because of the changes seems unwarrented if their god(s) yhwh and jesus are so much more powerful than are satan, his demons and their earthly agents. The old christian stories by the church fathers had christians commanding demon affected types jumping, sitting, lying down and rolling over w merely a command in jesus' name. Where has that power gone?

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  Nostone

  'Judaism, which is not based in the Old Testament but the Talmud and the Kabbalah,'
  
  I thought that they still leaned heavily on the torah, at least.
  
  I just remembered that you said that after the first millenium ad, that the reformation, kaballah and all other many of evil came in. You are suggesting that god has given satan free reign since then? Is that why the power to do miracles is gone?
  
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  NoStonecutters

  Interesting, I didn't know Jung said that. Yes, in Catholicism and Orthodoxy, privatio boni is the general teaching on the problem of evil. Reformer John Calvin, who was a crypto-Jew at worst and a Judaizer at best, was largely responsible, in essence, for making Satan a divine being by declaring God the author of both good and evil. I don't know how Judaism heavily leans on the Torah other than for symbolic reasons. Keep in mind, though, that in Judaism, there are at least three Torahs, the most authoratative being the Talmud. So, when someone says they are Torah observant or lean on the Torah, you have to ask them which Torah they are talking about.

  That is a good question as to why miracles have disappeared, or at least dramatically decreased in frequency. Perhaps it is due to Satan's short time to rule and reign leading up to the final judgment. Yes, I am saying that God gave Satan basically unfettered influence. The millenial reign was about bounding Satan (severly restricting his influence) and spreading the Gospel to all the Earth.

  Another thought, privatio boni isn't an exact science. It does leave some things unaswered.
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  Satanus

  The shadow....

  'In Jungian psychology, the shadow or "shadow aspect" may refer to (1) the entirety of the unconscious, i.e., everything of which a person is not fully conscious (2) an unconscious aspect of the personality which the conscious ego does not recognize in itself. Because one tends to reject or remain ignorant of the least desirable aspects of one's personality, the shadow is largely negative. There are, however, positive aspects which may also remain hidden in one's shadow (especially in people with low self-esteem). [ 1 ] Contrary to a Freudian conceptualisation of shadow, therefore, the Jungian shadow often refers to all that lies outside the light of consciousness, and may be positive or negative. "Everyone carries a shadow," Jung wrote, "and the less it is embodied in the individual's conscious life, the blacker and denser it is." [ 2 ] It may be (in part) one's link to more primitive animal instincts, [ 3 ] which are superseded during early childhood by the conscious mind.

  According to Jung, the shadow, in being instinctive and irrational, is prone to projection: turning a personal inferiority into a perceived moral deficiency in someone else. Jung writes that if these projections are unrecognized "The projection-making factor (the Shadow archetype) then has a free hand and can realize its object--if it has one--or bring about some other situation characteristic of its power." [ 4 ] These projections insulate and cripple individuals by forming an ever thicker fog of illusion between the ego and the real world. '

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_%28psychology%29

  It goes into incounter, merger and assimilation, in that article.

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  NoStonecutters

  Apparently Freud felt Jung was inferior as a gentile.