Human Devolution? Interesting Article...

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  • Paralipomenon
    Paralipomenon

    I agree with other researchers in that the intelligence genes being lost are more focused on intelligence related to hunting and gathering. Our intellectual requirements for survival are changing. When I go outside, I don't need to worry about being attacked by a wild animal. I am more focused on timing, schedules awareness of other drivers or changes in the weather. At an office I am not focused on motor function of slowing my brain down to the point that I can transcribe my thoughts via a pen and paper, rather I have picked up typing to allow my thought process to carry on faster.

    I think our brains are becoming more efficient. This study didn't even address the Flynn Effect which seems to conclude that as a species, our average IQ is growing at an amazing rate.

    In all, intelligence is measured by different people in different ways. It was an amusing article.

  • AGuest
    AGuest

    Well, so much for agreeing WITH science, I guess. Anyway, thank you ALL for your comments: the discuss was very... mmmmm... enlightening... for me, so I appreciate ALL of the feedback.

    Again, peace to you all!

    A slave of Christ,

    SA

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut

    People are not saying they disagree with SCIENCE because they disagree with one side of an issue.

    Hell, we would still be in the dark ages if we couldn't disagree and examine thoroughly.

  • AGuest
    AGuest

    I meant the side of science that asserts what this article purports, Jer... and so I'm not so sure "people are not saying they disagree" with science (at least as far as the "evidence" the article claims the study purports to show). Certainly, some are simply disagreeing with me, regardless of what the article is even about.

    I don't even know (none of us do, I would wager) if the study says this is the ONLY reason for the devolution (which is a valid word for the topic, per http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/devolution or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devolution_%28biology%29 or perhaps http://www.thefreedictionary.com/devolution). Per dear Sab (peace to you!) the breakdown in the family is also responsible (which sounds totally reasonable to me, although I have to wonder, like some others, whether that phenomenon is regional, perhaps even unique to the U.S., as opposed to global... but I'm not much of a world traveler, so I can't say one way or the other).

    I only attempted to speak as to the article's claim as to the study's claim of having [scientific] evidence to support its assertions. I'm not sure, though, how my agreement with the "science" that a study purports to support with evidence warrants some of the derison it has here. Perhaps it was a blow to some's false belief that I don't agree with ANYTHING asserted/proven by science (which is totally false)... and so because they just don't know how to handle that they resorted back their ususal "default" reaction... of disagreeing... even when there's no disagreement... just be disagreeable. That the only thing that makes sense to me for it.

    Ennywho.. it is what it is... and some things never change. Which can be a comfort to know... or not.

    A slave of Christ,

    SA

  • NewChapter
    NewChapter

    It's important to use critical thinking when looking at articles on science. That particular article was not scientific. I can't tell if this is a hypothesis, which has not been severely tested, or if it graduated to theory, where it will continue to be tested. We also have to be careful of the conclusions we draw from the data. Our education does not necessarily affect our genome, and that's the key. Just because we don't read sun dials anymore does not mean we have lost the ability to do so. We learn what we need to survive. I'd venture to say that if you took someone from the age of sundials and popped them on a computer with 3 windows open, they'd have a hard time, unless they were taught. We can teach a person to read a sun dial today, we just don't invest the time and resources into it because it is obsolete. Instead, we teach the kids how to log onto the internet, and then hopefully, also teach them to be critical of the information and how to determine if their sources are solid, etc.

    Famers today probably don't know how to plow a field with oxen. We wouldn't call them dumber, because they hop up onto a John Deere and run a very dangerous piece of machinery instead. Kids today are not taught to flint knap---and that doesn't make them dumb. Instead, they are blending audio and video and making youtube videos. That is some pretty sophisticated thinking.

    I did a quick search looking for this research, because taking a reporters word for things is never a good call. I didn't find anything, but I didn't look hard. I'd love to see Scientific American cover the story, because they will approach it in a scientific manner.

    There are other pressures on natural selection, and that may play a role too. The more education a woman has, the less children she gives birth to. This could translate into our most intelligent people not passing on as many genes. But there are also plenty of intelligent people that don't get an education, so it may be difficult to measure. In countries where religion dicatates, and a curious or intelligent woman steps out of line, we may lose her genes from the gene pool. Think of Malala and her intelligence, and how they have tried to kill her, thereby preventing those genes from passing on. Start killing women for being intelligent, and stupider boys are being born too, since these women would also give birth to boys.

    That's just a bit of hypothesis, as I have nothing to support it, but they are some of the thoughts I would have in mind when looking at research like this.

    The big question is how much is genetic and how much is just cultural? That's difficult to determine at times, but culture does exert selective pressures.

    Brain size is not necessarily an indication. Our brains have grown smaller. Populations that inhabit colder regions for many generations will have bigger brains. This has nothing to do with intelligence, but may be due to less sunlight and the extra room we need to process things visually.

    It's a complex subject, and one study won't give us all the answers. I do know that we shouldn't look at what kids can do today and compare it to what the parents are able to do, and use that as evidence. Sure, grandparents may have been great at building barns, making quilts, building fires, hunting---whatever---but give them a video game control and let's see whose smarter then.

    I'm sure the research will continue, and we will get our information from scientific sources with much less spin.

  • talesin
    talesin

    I encounter it almost everyday and it not only puzzles and perplexes me, but sometimes irritates me. People don't WANT to think... and there are a whole lotta folks out there that KNOW this... an capitalize, even prey on it.

    I find this extremely disconcerting. Is it our society, though? By that, I mean our willingness to be 'dumbed down'. Our personal choice to let our brains become lazy. The glamorization of useless tech products (ie, the NEW iphone, the NEW video game), and push towards reality TV, has reinforced many people's tendency to turn towards mindless entertainment rather than reading and actually thinking.

    We are fast becoming a society of automatons - so many people are racing, racing, racing - to accomplish what? Nothing.

    .. just thoughts ..

    tal

  • botchtowersociety
  • botchtowersociety
    botchtowersociety

    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289607000463

    The decline of the world's IQ

    • a University of Ulster, Coleraine, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom
    • b 1 Drove Cottages, Lewes, East Sussex, BN7 3HD, United Kingdom

    Abstract

    Dysgenic fertility means that there is a negative correlation between intelligence and number of children. Its presence during the last century has been demonstrated in several countries. We show here that there is dysgenic fertility in the world population quantified by a correlation of − 0.73 between IQ and fertility across nations. It is estimated that the effect of this has been a decline in the world's genotypic IQ of 0.86 IQ points for the years 1950–2000. A further decline of 1.28 IQ points in the world's genotypic IQ is projected for the years 2000–2050. In the period 1950–2000 this decline has been compensated for by a rise in phenotypic intelligence known as the Flynn Effect, but recent studies in four economically developed countries have found that this has now ceased or gone into reverse. It seems probable that this “negative Flynn Effect” will spread to economically developing countries and the whole world will move into a period of declining genotypic and phenotypic intelligence. It is possible that “the new eugenics” of biotechnology may evolve to counteract dysgenic fertility.

  • botchtowersociety
    botchtowersociety

    http://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/IQ/1950-2050/

    Year Population×10 9 Mean IQ
    19502.5591.64
    19754.0890.80
    20006.0789.20
    20257.8287.81
    20509.0686.32
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