Baptismal Questions CHANGE AGAIN! (page 2)

designs

That makes 3 degrees of seperation from my old baptism.

I wasn't confirming but I can see making those changes...and like myself, most jws will never notice. So nobody has a circuit assembly or special day coming up? Has anyone taped their most recent one? I don't go any more and I know that any jws I ask won't have noticed. Some of them are still talking about the 1914 generation, changed 17 years ago.

Scott77

	The "spirit-directed " has become "spirit -anointed"AND "the organization" has become "association"
	raymond frantz

I think, it might many reasons. To be 'spirit-directed' means you have to be 100 true any sayings. OMG! Iam sorry, even with spirit-anointed, you have to be accurate 100 percent of your prophesies. I really do not know.

Scott77

NeverKnew

So, the dumb worldly will present as follows...

"Help me understand. In churches, we just use the easy baptism that's in the Bible, 'I baptize you in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit' and that's the way it's always been. I understand that your organization has changed the baptism as many as 4 times or more over the last century and most recently within maybe the last month or two. When that happens, do you all have to be re-baptized?"

Jeffro

Is this an actual (official) change, or just one speaker messing up the words?

Splash

There was instruction at last years elder school to stop using the term 'society' on the platform, but to use 'organisation' instead.

Seems this is altogether new.

I can confirm this next month when i review the baptism procedures at my next convention, but i guess we'll find out before then.

Splash

whathappened

This is as bad as the JW wedding vows. I forget the exact wording, but it says something about "for as long as we shall live together here on earth under the divine arrangement," or something like that.

Dont they phrase things in a pompose way?

wha happened?

so JW's haven't joined an organization, they just associatte with it. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm........

blondie

*** w98 3/15 pp. 18-19 pars. 3-4 Living Up to Christian Dedication in Freedom ***

Someone may argue that the way the Witnesses speak about the Watch Tower Society—or more often just “the Society”—indicates that they view it as more than a legal instrument. Do they not consider it to be the final authority on matters of worship? The book Jehovah’s Witnesses—Proclaimers of God’s Kingdom clarifies this point by explaining: “When The Watchtower [June 1, 1938] referred to ‘The Society,’ this meant, not a mere legal instrumentality, but the body of anointed Christians that had formed that legal entity and used it.” The expression therefore stood for “the faithful and discreet slave.” (Matthew 24:45) It is in this sense that the Witnesses generally used the term “the Society.” Of course, the legal corporation and “the faithful and discreet slave” are not interchangeable terms. Directors of the Watch Tower Society are elected, whereas Witnesses who make up ‘the faithful slave’ are anointed by Jehovah’s holy spirit.

4 In order to avoid misunderstandings, Jehovah’s Witnesses try to be careful about how they express themselves. Instead of saying, “the Society teaches,” many Witnesses prefer to use such expressions as, “the Bible says” or, “I understand the Bible to teach.” In this way they emphasize the personal decision that each Witness has made in accepting Bible teachings and also avoid giving the false impression that Witnesses are somehow bound to the dictates of some religious sect. Of course, suggestions as regards terminology should never become a subject of controversy. After all, terminology is of importance only to the extent that it prevents misunderstandings. Christian balance is required. The Bible admonishes us “not to fight about words.” (2 Timothy 2:14, 15) The Scriptures also state this principle: “Unless you through the tongue utter speech easily understood, how will it be known what is being spoken?”—1 Corinthians 14:9.

Aussie Oz

another degree of distance between the WTBTS and the rank and file?

when a JW hits the news for all the wrong reasons, the WTBTS can say ''oh, he/she is only an associate of an association...we are not even an organization''.

If this is true (and I think it will be confirmed) it has legal department stamped all over it. technicalities of words at play here.

oz

Baptismal Questions CHANGE AGAIN!

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