Mother Teresa attacked by Atheist/Anostic group -

by james_woods 205 Replies latest jw experiences

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  snare&racket

  Hitchens has some great info on MT.

  I believe she was involved with some financial fraud. Also she had a belief that pain was an important element to worship and spiritual development. The catholic church as a whole believes this is varying degrees, trials sent to test us etc to opus dei. (Yeah.... Dazza Brown!)

  I am sure that many people died under her care due to her beliefs on poverty and suffering. There are ex nun nurses that have left and spoken out.

  Why someone would defend such a person I have no idea. Harold Shipman was a good clinical doctor....but a mass murdered. The good does not rub out the bad.
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  tec

  What about to those who she denied family visits, medicine and proper medical to?

  I'd say that was wrong. But I don't know all the facts surrounding it. I will probably NEVER know all the facts surrounding individual thing as this.

  But the more you do, the more mistakes you will make. But also, the more you will help.

  Like I said, good to speak about such things to hopefully prevent such mistakes in the future, at least as much as possible.

  There are people who attack good deeds for not being done the way they think they should have been done. I keep that in mind too.

  Peace,

  tammy
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  NewChapter

  You know, this sentiment feels as though it has been twisted from whatever was originally said

  Yeah, don't go on feelings. Research it.
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  rather be in hades

  good to speak about such things to hopefully prevent such mistakes in the future, at least as much as possible.

  There are people who attack good deeds for not being done the way they think they should have been done.

  that's rather dismissive.

  your view is that it's an attack on good deeds. how do you know it was good deeds? someone else might legitimately claim these were not good deeds.

  what constitutes "good intentions" in your view, might not be "good intentions" in someone else's view and vice versa.

  why not prove her critics wrong with facts?
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  OUTLAW

  Mother Superior jumped the Gun..

  

  ............................ ... OUTLAW
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  snare&racket

  thats what I'm talking about !
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  tec

  You might need to give me a hint of where to start. This is the one that I found from Hitchens:

  I think it is very beautiful for the poor to accept their lot, to share it with the passion of Christ. I think the world is being much helped by the suffering of the poor people.

  I don't understand this and I would have asked her what she meant, because here on its face I disagree. But it is not the same as what you stated.

  What you stated seems to make her like a 'vampire', feeding on the suffering and death of others.

  Peace,

  tammy
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  tec

  that's rather dismissive.

  your view is that it's an attack on good deeds. how do you know it was good deeds? someone else might legitimately claim these were not good deeds.

  No, that is not my view. My view was to show that there ARE people who do this, and so it is hard to sort through fact from fiction on a person in the spotlight that you will never personally know.

  why not prove her critics wrong with facts?

  My point is that I doubt I am ever going to be able to discern between fact and twisted facts in this case. Could be wrong. Not really going to set out to prove things one way or the other. I appreciate those who would try to make things work better, and i appreciate those who are genuinely trying to help.

  Peace,

  tammy
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  yadda yadda 2

  This kind of militant atheism makes me puke, and it just backfires. What have these so called humanists ever done to help the poor, sick and suffering? Leave mother Theresa alone for f*cks sake, pick on the real problems and evildoers in the world.
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  NewChapter

  Not really going to set out to prove things one way or the other.

  I would say if you don't wish to prove things one way or another, then claiming she was bascially good or helpful is unproven. Claiming that some may simply be motivated to attack good deeds, is unfounded. Do you want to know what MT meant when she said what she said. Look into it. What does her life's decisions show you. What does allowing a teenager die of treatable kidney disease show you? How about those that knew her. What do they have to say?

  But you aren't out to prove things one way or another, but still seem to have an opinion, even if it is somewhat weak. (by your admission---it is not a strong one)

  Okay.