I can't imagine not believing in God. (page 10)

tec

Freedom from shunning.

Freedom from hating.

Freedom from dying over a false teaching.

To add a few things...

Peace,

tammy

If you must believe in god believe in Thor or Gaia. They will give you the same warm and fuzzy feeling inside, and they don't have a record of baby killing, child sacrifice, and genocide like yahweh/jesus does, and they don't ask you to spend your life doing boring and stupid things like knocking on doors or trying to convince others that they exist without any evidence.

tec

Freedom from such mistaken beliefs as tt2c's above (baby killing, child sacrifice, genocide...)

tootired2care

Freedom from such mistaken beliefs as tt2c's above (baby killing, child sacrifice, genocide...)

Jesus was first of all creation (Col 1:15)
Jesus and Yahweh perpetrate the flood killing millions of babies
Jesus and Yahweh ask/permit their servants Abraham and Jepthah to sacrifice their children to him, god allowed Jepthah to go through with it (the light gets so much brighter doesn't it?)
Genocides: Flood, cleansing of Palestine (devote all to destruction men women and children), Armaggedon

Where is the freedom you speak of exactly?

EntirelyPossible

Freedom from shunning.

We have that without him.

Freedom from such mistaken beliefs as tt2c's above (baby killing, child sacrifice, genocide...)

His words and followers are part of the reason we had that.

You mean something like how Christ is the Image and Truth and Word of God... rather than the bible or religion?

Why is that important?

Like understanding how faith works... that it is not something arbitrary that is being asked of us, but rather something essential.

I suppose a dictionary would help, to.

cofty

You mean something like how Christ is the Image and Truth and Word of God... rather than the bible or religion?

And this is useful how exactly?

An understanding that there is no supernatural, that this life is the only one we will ever have also sets people free from fear and servitude to religion. Substituting one religion for another as you offer does the opposite. Its just religion in everything but name.

Mankind needs to know Truth, Cofty. - Tammy

Like the "truth" that god looks like a dragon or a gargoyle. The "truth" that Seraphs are sent to wash the feet of those who believe? Do you mean useful "truths" like that?

How about your favourite "truth" that denigrates life and humanity and describes it all as a prison of some airy-fairy thing you call spirit? How does that increase the value of anybody's life?

never mind all the personal help that Christ gives... to those who ask, and who put their faith in Him and that He will answer - no doubts

The most cruel delusion of all.

cofty

Freedom from shunning. Freedom from hating. Freedom from dying over a false teaching.

Unbelief gives us all that and much more.

tec

TT2C:

I do not know yet the truth of the flood account.

I DO know that Christ did not kill anyone. He GAVE and GIVES life. He healed. He protected. He forgave. He showed mercy. He asked forgiveness from his Father for those who sinned against Him. So anything that I might look at in the OT or anywhere else has to be measured against Christ... and what HE shows of His Father. This is the bottom line, and the freedom that comes from seeing Christ and the Truth that He teaches/shares/shows.

As well, the Abraham account shows that God does NOT want human sacrifice; no matter the lesson that might have been used to teach it.

Jepthath did that to himself and to his daughter. God did not ask or require any such thing; indeed, he does NOT want sacrifice. "I desire mercy, not sacrifice." Hosea 6:6... also repeated by Christ.

Armageddon occurs against those who are coming to those who belong to Christ and God... to attack and destroy them. Like an invading army whose only purpose is to take what you have and destroy you. This is protection. Certainly not genocide because within that kingdom are people of every nation, tribe, culture, tongue, etc.

Peace to you,

tammy

tootired2care

Tammy great opinion piece you have there, unfortunately thats just not what the bible or Jesus plainly stated did or would happen. Without the bible there is no concept of Jesus.

Peace to you.

tec

We have that without him.

Some do.

Some others shun their 'loved' ones on the basis of any number of reasons. Did something the family does not approve. Got into trouble with the law. Chose a career other than what one was meant to choose. Married the wrong person. Homosexual. Got into drugs. (don't think just in the west, either)

His words and followers are part of the reason we had that.

False beliefs are part of the reason we had that.

Why is that important?

So that one is not tied and subject to some of the false teachings that have been taken from 'the bible'. Because men have used that book like a golden calf; and they have twisted it to say whatever they want it to say and to justify whatever they want it to justify. If, however, one looks to Christ... then some of those things are shown to be false.

I suppose a dictionary would help, to.

Dictionaries don't necessarily describe how something works... they describe what something is. (according to the knowledge of the people doing the describing)

Peace to you,

tammy

I can't imagine not believing in God.

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