I can't imagine not believing in God.

by MsGrowingGirl20 643 Replies latest members private

  • Chariklo
    Chariklo

    Down-home folksy research doesn't prove anything at all, despite the apple pie, baseball and your country. Nor would good old-fashioned roast beef and Yorkshire help in any way, delicious though it might be alongside proper football and a big red London bus.

    Believing in God has nothing to do with evidence...though it may, for some people.

    An old man sat at the back of the church, just looking down the aisle at the altar and the crucifix and the stained glass window at the east end.

    Day after day, week after week, the priest would see the old man just sitting there. He'd stay for about an hour. Nothing would happen. He did nothing and said nothing, sometimes for a longer time and sometimes for a shorter. Occasionally, he and the priest would exchange a polite "good morning" and once or twice even comment "cold, today" or "turned out nice again." The priest wondered if perhaps he was waiting for a bus.

    One day, the priest's curiosity got the better of him. He decided to talk to the old man. "Excuse me," he said, " I can't help wondering just why you come here and sit down and do nothing for such a long time."

    "Well," replied the old man, "it's like this. I sits here and looks at Jesus, and he just looks at me." His eyes were alight with the joy of it.

    And that, Cofty, EP, and all others who seek proof and evidence and scorn others who have what you had and have lost or what you never found...THAT is what belief and faith in God is and what it's all about.

  • AGuest
    AGuest
    You think a lot of things about this creature, *really really* want it to be true and call that "knowing" things

    Yes, like some creatures themselves "knowing" they're awesome, etc., because they *really really* want it to be true...

    My experience is that just the opposite is often much closer to the truth. A truly awesome person doesn't need to keep reminding others (or himself) just how "awesome" he is. It's like pulling out the Porsche...

    A slave of Christ,

    SA

  • EntirelyPossible
    EntirelyPossible

    Goodness, the dishonesty just doesn't quit for some o' ya'll. Talk about believing your own rhetoric...

    But it sounded good when you said it to yourself, didn't it?

    Noit dishonest at all. The goal is arrive at zero. Your side pounces with faith, we pounce with the anti-dote, it equals 0.

  • Lozhasleft
    Lozhasleft

    Just that your claim to "know" information about a silent, invisible, unmeasurable undetectable spirit creature from another dimension cannot possibly be true.

    This just illuminates how very limited and blinkered you are. I actually feel sorry for you, and would hate to end up thinking like this. So sad, so incredibly sad. No more for me to say, except to hope that you don't contaminate others with your terrible disdain.

    Loz x

  • cofty
    cofty

    You would not discuss ANYTHING having to do with faith... - Shelby

    Not at all. Objective facts and evidence are exactly what is needed to counter superstitious fantasies.

    Atheism is a lack of belief, its the default position. You can't proselytise atheism you can only offer reasons why people like you selling their brand of religion have not made their case.

    PS - its bollocks (testicles) not bullocks (young male bovine)

  • cantleave
    cantleave

    OK - Lets say hypothetically there was a creator that started it all......

    The leap from that to knowing it is called Jesus or Yaweh or any other personal god is enormous. Where does that come from? Why is your god real and his god not?

  • cofty
    cofty

    Believing in God has nothing to do with evidence - Charilko

    Agreed.

  • AGuest
    AGuest

    Finally, you've exposed yourself (no pun intended):

    EP -

    when you are pressed, you can't even accurately describe basic details. You think it, you pontificate on it, you vaguely describe it, but you never can quite seem to get the details down.

    SA -

    You have been given GREAT detail. Time and time again.

    EP -

    Providing detail in no way makes that detail accurate or something you can know. I mean, if auditory and visual hallicinations were evidence to know something, LSD would be a required drug in school.

    First, that wasn't the statement. BUT, second, while it's true that providing does not mean accuracy, you HAVE been provided with ACCURATE detail, as WELL as something you can know. That you don't WANT to know doesn't negate the provision... or accuracy... of the detail(s). C'mon, I was starting to think you had a "smoother" handle on your rhetoric. Appears not.

    Sorry.

    You should be. Indeed, your need to be seems to be consistently increasing.

    A slave of Christ,

    SA

  • Chariklo
    Chariklo

    Still, Cofty, anyone who has regularly had to navigate, as i have, with children and dog, a field of boisterous bullocks year after year, will quickly recognise that comparison with those boisterous, often unruly and aggressive young animals, like a herd of hooligan four-legged teenagers, is actually wonderfully relevant to such a thread as this!!!

  • Lozhasleft
    Lozhasleft

    Attempts to proselytise somebody in this situation is akin to a dealer hanging around outside rehab

    I agree Cofty, thus when this 'gang' of non believers prowl the forum trying to 'convert to their opinion' members, even new members, I see that as browbeating.

    Loz x

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