by MsGrowingGirl20 643 Replies latest members private
Yes Tammy I have read the lunacy about dragons and gargoyles and Seraphs washing Sehlby's feet. I'm not talking about that sort of foolishness, I am asking for one single thing that Jesus has told you that can can be verified objectively.
If your voices and visions are genuine you ought to have at least one example.
The obvious conclusion is that its all a childish fantasy.
Has he ever said anything that could not be known by non-superntatural means?
I am asking for one single thing that Jesus has told you that can can be verified objectively.
Are these two sentences the same, or opposite?
Geez, if you have to ask...
The same obviously.
If something can NOT be known by NON-supernatural means... how can it be verified objectively?
Sigh. Can't even sneak out of a thread. Okay, then:
Dear tec (peace to you!):
Since I know that Christ is here and speaking
Cofty: Actually according to your mentor he doesn't exist...
AGuest: When I came to know the One many CALL "Jesus" I came to know that "Jesus" has never done anything for me... because there is no such person. And " there is no 'Jesus.' Else, he would ANSWER everyone
Now where, in that statement, do you read that I stated Christ doesn't exist, C? Christ absolutely exists. If anyone here has stated that, I have. Exists. As a spirit being. Is alive. Speaks. Is the Son of God. Is the HOLY One of Israel and Holy Spirit, JAHESHUA, the Chosen of JAH (MischaJah)... and so "Christ" of the MOST Holy One of Israel, JAH of Armies. Where... have I EVER stated that Christ does not exist?
You [folks] tout us as being intellectually dishonest. We, though, don't hide. Don't mince words. Don't skirt issues and questions. And we don't take what you state and turn it into what we want it to state to try and make our argument or persuade others to believe what we do. I have posted many... many... many times... why "Jesus" is an inaccurate name... in spite of the existence of those who disagree. In spite of your stance on the inaccuracy of the Bible, however, you apparently think that ONE thing about it is not only accurate but without a doubt: the name "Jesus."
There are folks out there who believe... without a doubt... that God's name is "Jehovah." That name is in the Bible, too, C, and not just the NWT. Let me ask you: do YOU believe God's name is "Jehovah"? Of course, I don't expect you to answer. Again, you have NEVER responded to ANY question I've asked of YOU.
But there it is. And YOU can't have it both ways, can you? Wouldn't that make you a hypocrite?
Here it is, though, per YOU: if there is a God His name is "Jehovah"... because that's what's written in SOME Bibles... or it's "the LORD," because that's what's written in MOST Bibles. And, if that's true, then logic follows, does it not, that if there is the Son of God... his name is "Jesus," because that's what's written in MOST Bibles. Right? Oh, wait... except... wait for it... HEBREW Bibles. There, it's "Yeshua." Which comes from Y'eshua. Which, when translated to ENGLISH... is "Joshua", not "Jesus. That I place emphasis on the JAH and pronouce the "J" (yodh) as if a "y"... and pronounce the second syllable so rapidly that it's almost silent... is... what? Nothing more than simple phonetics, C.
But none of that matters, does it, because that's not really the issue. The ISSUE is this: do YOU believe in "Jesus", C, and if not, why do you even have an issue with whatever name the one we follow is called? What difference does it make to YOU? If he never lived... or worse, given our belief... does not exist now... why the concern on YOUR part, the gasp of incredulity as to what I shared as to the name "Jesus"?
If you would spend as much time answering the questions directed to you... as you do trying to manipulate people into thinking what you want them to... you might actually learn some truths about yourself for a change. One is that you're not as much of a disbeliever as you wish others to think. Mad at God? Yep. Angry? Uh-huh. Pissed even? Oh, yeah. Outraged? Now we're getting somewhere.
Look at those three fingers pointing back at you, C. Start there for a change and maybe... just MAYBE... you will actually "see" what it is you've been wanting to: the truth.
Gotta run.
A slave of Christ,
SA
Not be known by non-supernatural means = can be known by supernatural means.
"I'm not talking about that sort of foolishness, I am asking for one single thing that Jesus has told you that can can be verified objectively.
If your voices and visions are genuine you ought to have at least one example.
The obvious conclusion is that its all a childish fantasy."
Given that you are currently refusing to believe something despite over two thousand years of every kind of documentation, it's hardly logical for you to ask Tammy to produce an example of something you have no plans of accepting, is it?
Yes, great posts, Tammy, by the way.
Shelby - Are you having trouble reading or do you deliberately misquote to suit your own ends?
I said...
If you take the bible out the equation you wouldn't even know that Jesus existed.
Actually according to your mentor he doesn't exist...
Tec - you are being obtuse to avoid a simple challenge - duly noted.
