Quickest memorial invite ever

by ashitaka 19 Replies latest jw friends

  • ashitaka
    ashitaka

    Wifey's Dad: Hi, it's Dad, how are things going?

    Wife: OK

    Wifey's Dad: Is (his son) on his way home yet?

    Wife: Yeah, he left about twenty minutes ago.

    {indiscriminate small talk, about one minute worth}

    Wife: So, how are..(cut off)

    Wifey's Dad: So, are you going to the memorial?

    Wifey: I don't really want to talk about it.

    Wifey's Dad: Gotta go, bye. {Hangs up}

    I JUST WANTED TO THANK THE WTBTS FOR REALLY STRIVING TO KEEP FAMILIES TOGETHER. BY THIS CONVERSATION, YOU CAN SEE HOW CLOSE FATHER AND DAUGHTER ARE BECOMING. THEY SURELY LOVE FREEWILL. HOW COULD ANYONE SAY THAT THE WTBTS STRANGE RITUALS DON'T BREAK FAMILIES APART? THANK GOODNESS FOR THE WTBTS. I HOPE THEy STAY AROUND FOREVER AND EVER AND EVER, AND WE'LL ALL BE HAPPY WITH THEIR GUIDANCE AND DIRECTION.

    MY WIFE WAS CRYING, BUT TEARS OF JOY ARE SO NICE. AREN'T THEY?

    THANK YOU, WATCHTOWER!!!

    ashi, of the 'Something big is going to happen' class

    UADNA-New Jersey Chapter-"OUR REACH IS FAR, OUR CAUSE IS JUST"

  • ARoarer
    ARoarer

    Hi Ash, this is going on with us too.

  • SUSCARRA
    SUSCARRA

    Well, I guess I'll have to just cry for you guys, too, since our little 'postate' family surely won't be getting an invite.

    Just in case they do call with an invite, I'm gonna be polite and tell them that we already have specific plans for the evening, however, if they would like to join us after their special meeting, they certainly are welcome to drop by. I've always been hospitable and cordial, so why should I stop now. I have a strong feeling that I have nothing to worry about.
    I feel a lot will be getting 'their' last minute 'rites' or call just so the elders have done their spiritual duty. But, if you are a known 'postate', they have no obligation to inform you of anything.

    Have a nice cry!

    SUSCARRA

  • MavMan
    MavMan
    I JUST WANTED TO THANK THE WTBTS FOR REALLY STRIVING TO KEEP FAMILIES TOGETHER.

    AND WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO KEEP THE FAMILY TOGETHER?

  • Elsewhere
    Elsewhere

    So far not a peep out of my family.

    I guess they have learned the pattern... I don't mention "apostate" things unless they start talking about "spiritual" things.

    If they mention anything "spiritual", then I consider the topic open and fair game.

    "As every one knows, there are mistakes in the Bible" - The Watchtower, April 15, 1928, p. 126
    Believe in yourself, not mythology.
    <x ><

  • ashitaka
    ashitaka

    HEY MAV PERHAPS CAPS LOCK WONT GET TO YOU

    so I'll use regular type again. Her father, brainwashed that his daughter is evil if she doesn't attend meetings, won't talk to her unless she does go back.

    She went from daddy's little girl to daddy's little devil.

    This upset her, (try using your imagination if you've already carved out your heart), and all because she wasn't something they are.

    Trolls like you deserve to drive off a very tall bridge into a deep, dark lake. It should also take about an hour for you to die.

    Then you'll understand the suffering of shunned people, who are leading moral, upright lives.

    Maggots like you use the shunning reason to brush up on your religious egos, which in reality is just a penis-comparing session, not a real religious ferver for god's sake, but shunning to make yourself feel more holy.

    Actually, in the beginning, we tried to keep contact, but they were so viper-like in their accusations and demeanor that we limited contact with these degenerates. It's this religion that did this to them. You're blindness is a disease, and those with the disease can rarely see who sick they really are.

    I hope you grow a heart, or at least the ability to see your realative position in the scheme of things-you have no right to judge, because you are imperfect yourself.....some guy said that.

    ashi

  • AMarie
    AMarie

    AMEN, Ashi.

    I'm sorry that your wife had to experience such a hurtful thing from her father. Even though he is only behaving this way because of being a brainwashed cult member, I'd still like to see you give him a verbal ass-whoopin'. Poor Water Goddess.

    AMarie

  • MavMan
    MavMan

    Having that attitude certainly won't unite the family. See the real problem here?

  • D8TA
    D8TA

    MavMan---

    Thank you for RE-ENFORCING the fact that JW's are callous, cruel, and uncaring when it comes to biofamily relationships as per view to the WTBTS. You are a fine asset to the borganization on this point.

    Thank you, for showing your IGNORANCE in a situation you don't understand, and have the small mind and audacity to criticize. WTBTS just luuuvs to point their finger dont they? All the while ignoring the 3 pointing right back at them.

    This is where I draw my line with people like you. Ashitika revealed something personal, something only HIS family understands. Sure, most of us have SIMILAR experiences...and to each of us they are different and personal. There's an inherint diversity in each situtation that each person experience is their own.
    But I can see you as a person that (who claims to represent the WTBTS view) really doesn't "give a crap" what your foot steps on or in.

    My suggestion to you is, STFU. STFU now. You're only making the point that your being a "dick". Insensitivity at this level only leads others to view you as an asshole.

    Before you go in to a "this topic is an open game for me to respond", let me point out...Ashitika had made no mention to YOU in this topic. He made no mention of YOUR FAMILY in this topic. Yet you take the liberty to bash/flame HIS FAMILY sitution. This is something I draw the line on. You want to bash people for harping on the WTBTS on other points. That's fine. But when somebody brings their FAMILY in to it...I suggest laying off. Think before you post.

    D8TA

  • ashitaka
    ashitaka

    mav,

    My wife has made every effort to keep things peaceable. Instead of them reciprocating love, they give her grief, guilt trips, and shame. They are manipulative, uncaring people (that is my opinion).

    My wife still loves them....but it is obvious that they don't love her.

    I've seen families exist in happiness when someone is shunned. The family just doesn't participate in the shunning.

    Her family shuns to the point of meanness. You obviously have no conscience, to put the blame on my wife.

    Their attitude is 'my way or no way'. That is the way the WTBTS teaches, from the simplest doctrine on up. The result is an religiously emotional child who can barely suckle at the breast of life because of fear of 'sinning'. In the end, life itself is sacrificed, and yes, this includes family.

    If there's anything taught in the bible is that family is very important. As long as the bible's moral code is upheld, then no Witness should shun another, even if they do consider them sinners.

    Take into account your own feelings on the issue. Perhaps when you became a witness your family shunned you from the other side. Do you feel it's sweet revenge to shun other people when they choose NOT to be a witness? Sometimes it feels that way to me.

    I've seen families destroyed by the shunning doctrine, people's lives destroyed. They commit some small sin, and yet their life is ruined, not because of the consequences of the sin, but because of the harshness of the punishment.

    Would you demand capital punishment for someone stealing a pie cooling on a window?

    That is what I have always seen it as.

    Shunning for molestation, murder, or other crimes that ARE severe could make sense, especially if the person is dangerous (this is the only situation where I consider shunning appropriate).

    But telling family (formally or informally) what to do as to association with YOUR OWN FAMILY MEMBERS is wrong, morally wrong, more wrong than the sin that was committed by the shunned one.

    Read the bible, particularly the life of Jesus. Then you'll get my point.

    ashi

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