Jehovah Witness Pastors Has A Sheep ...Arrested

by D wiltshire 25 Replies latest jw friends

  • aChristian
    aChristian

    Dave,

    You wrote: People were telling her what I was saying to others about things.

    What issues caused you to part ways with the Watchtower to begin with? I asked you this before and you referred me to a thread in which you posted your DF appeal letter. But in it you really didn't discuss specific issues that you had disagreements with the Watchtower on. Were your issues mainly doctrinal (like the FDS, the deity of Christ, the two classes, blood and various legalisms), procedural issues (such as the use of disfellowshipping and compulsory door knocking and turning in of time), or personal such as the way certain people in the congregation treated others?

  • D wiltshire
    D wiltshire

    AC,

    Every thing came unraveled so fast(the lies of the WT), that I can't say with any real defining thing for certain.
    I would go to the libriary and read Ray Franz book "C of C".
    When first found out that I was in a cult I was greatfull to know for certain that happened around febuary of last year.
    The first thing I did was call a fellow elder who was DF'd by the committee I was on, and I called him up and cried asking for his forgiveness to which he quickly granted, both he and his wife were stuned.

    To say what lie being exposed help me see that the WT was a fraud is so hard to say because every thing has happened so fast I'm still reeling from what I'm learning.

    Join the Watchtower or you will die.
    Only Jehovah's Witnesses have the TRUTH all other religions EVIL and from the Devil.
    You must beleive the Watchtower or you're going to die a painful death forever, isn't that really GOOD NEWS?
  • Beans
  • plmkrzy
    plmkrzy

    ((((((((((((((HUGS))))))))))))))))

    "I look to the sea, reflections in the waves spark my memory
    Some happy,some sad"
    styx

    This one most definitely Happy
  • Derrick
    Derrick
    Derrick, if we are not that far away from you maybe some day we will meet.

    You never know. Do you work in the high tech industry? Also, are you right near some of the Hollywood studios that have backlots on Charleston Road in Mountain View and that general area? I was given a tour one time, of one of the studios and backlots where they filmed portions of Terminator 2: Judgment Day. (As I recall Silicon Graphics worked on the award winning special effects and its facilities are in the general area. I went to that giant cinemaplex of theaters directly across the street from Silicon Graphics main lobby on T2's opening day, which I had advanced tickets for.)

    It's a real tough place in northern California for JWs especially in the Silicon Valley area (which spans from San Francisco down the peninsula to San Jose and is expanding towards Morgan Hill with the proposed city-sized Cisco complex near there). Mountain View and Sunnyvale have been quite popular meccas for the high technology companies such as Adobe and Intel. Since I got into the real estate market in the mid-1990's before hyperinflation kicked in, I've seen houses start to approach the levels one would expect in Tokyo and other inflationary markets, due to a fundamental shortage. That's what makes this inflation different, and why I loosely use the word "hyperinflation".

    It's really fascinating being in the midst of these fast times in technology and internet communications, and I'm so thankful that I went against the "wise counsel" of the elders to graduate from high school with honors. I was eventually forgiven for this trespass but again tested their patience when I decided not to become a fulltime Pioneer but get a degree in the computer sciences and business communications instead! I literally got called on the carpet when a sister overheard me telling a brother that I graduated (and he got called on the carpet for congratulating me using some odd line of reasoning). I was never a smart ass however, always treating them instinctively like I treated managers in corporations (LOL!), doing this unconsciously. Ironically the elders liked that respect, as I discovered many of them are similar to the Scribes and Pharisees who love being treated as your Superiors! Well, I was guilty of massaging those humongous egos without even realizing, I think because I was a Witness since my mid-teens and always viewed them like my father. And you needed to treat dear old Dad respectfully or watch out! ;-)

    I really sense that you'll do well. I did a search and read your original posts on this site back in June of 2001, the ordeal you went through, and really commend you for maintaining your sanity. Just remember that their bad behavior is no more God's fault than the poor behavior of the clergy class in general (of which the elders have proven themselves to be part of). They will receive what the rest of the clergy will receive, whether it's the majority who abuse their authority over the flock, or the few who really make themselves true servants of God -- each will receive his reward whether it's good or bad, I believe. By the way, I did a search on "Pickering" next to "Jehovah" (I think that's the right name) over www.yahoo.com and amazingly that name is as common as "Smith" amongst JWs! What is it about that name that it's so widespread? (Other than your getting shafted by a member of the J.C. with that name? Maybe it's a sign from God as one brother in my congregation would always say about unusual coincidences, LOL.) ;-)

    Derrick

    To see a World in a Grain of Sand
    And a Heaven in a Wild Flower,
    Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand
    And Eternity in an hour.

    -- William Blake (Auguries of Innocence)

  • D wiltshire
    D wiltshire

    Derrick,

    Thanks for the encouragement, and you sound like your doing well, so I'm glad and wish you success.
    My email is always open click on it and maybe we can do lunch or something.

    dave

    Join the Watchtower or you will die.
    Only Jehovah's Witnesses have the TRUTH all other religions EVIL and from the Devil.
    You must beleive the Watchtower or you're going to die a painful death forever, isn't that really GOOD NEWS?
  • D wiltshire
    D wiltshire

    I think I'm going to get a lawyer and sue the pants off of these elders of the Sunnyvale congregation for false arrest and I think I can win.

    Join the Watchtower or you will die.
    Only Jehovah's Witnesses have the TRUTH all other religions EVIL and from the Devil.
    You must beleive the Watchtower or you're going to die a painful death forever, isn't that really GOOD NEWS?
  • Sunspot
    Sunspot

    >>I think I'm going to get a lawyer and sue the pants off of these elders of the Sunnyvale congregation for false arrest and I think I can win.<<

    Dave,

    I have been so touched and involved with your postings dealing with the Bryant tragedy, and then your treatment in the Sunnyvale Kingdom Hall..............

    I hope you get SOME kind of satisfaction (legally, morally, spiritually, ethically, emotionally) in any way you CAN!!!!!

    If you are in the position to "GO for it", then DO just THAT!! You have MANY who silently support you in this and respect who YOU are.

    Hugs,

    Annie

  • KD
    KD

    Sorry to hear that. The Elders over there realy know how to practice christain love.

  • Scully
    Scully

    hey D wiltshire

    I feel for you. Wish there was something more we could do.

    Metatron:

    Can't somebody cite precedent from child custody cases
    to fight against this breakup of families? Can a case be made for grandparent's rights?
    I may be mistaken, but wasn't someone speculating that Robert Bryant's JW parents were seeking custody of the four children just before the murder-suicide happened??

    It's stunning the level that JWs will stoop to in order to get what they want. It disgusts me.

    Love, Scully

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