Rumors that they spread about you. When you left. (page 2)

Guest 77

Here's an interesting quote, "He that talks to you about others, will talk about you." Use your imagination.

Guest 77

DocBob

It would appear that whenever a person leaves the organisation by DA/DF/IA that people take it upon themselves to start spreading "nasty rumours" about the person in question.

I heard the rumor that my wife and I had broken up. My wife will occasionally run into an old JW friend and they often ask "So, are you and Bob still together?" as though it was expected that we were not. The reality is that leaving the org was one of the best things to ever happen to our relationship.

Also, in Dec 1999, I sent out 70 copies of a letter explaning why I left ans where I was spiritually to old JW friends in 5 different congregations. (The letter is on my website at http://home.attbi.com/~docbob1 ) Last summer a local JW called on the pastor of my church. When Stan mentioned my name, the JW said, "Oh, he left just so he could celebrate holidays." DUH!!!

2SYN

Thanks for your cooperation

Sounds like something the Governing Body would say in a letter to the BOE.

[SYN], UADA - Unseen Apostate Directorate of Africa - For Great Justice!

zev

jerome, and others who replied here....

when i saw the topic on the board. i knew it was a good one.

heres why.

over the weekend, i made a decision. i typed out my d.a. letter, and while gwen and i were out for a ride on sunday, we stopped by the post office, and mailed it. it was a moment i'll never forget.

the reason why this topic struck me, was during one of our conversations, she asked me about this, and if i knew what would happen and the vicious rumours that would be said about me.

my first reaction was, i don't care. it don't bother me, i know the situation and those people know nothing.

but to justify things in their own minds, i know, rumours will fly.
i expect it. it won't shock me.

under the circumstances, i understand why the rumours will fly, almost no one knows what happened. the circumstances will be covered in the next part of my story, part 8.

they have nothing to go on. so what will they do? manufacture reasons for my leaving.

sad to say, when i was a dub i probably did the same damn thing, and speculated, when i knew nothing.

now as i sit here, i really don't care whats said. truly i don't. i know what happened. i know the reality of the situation. they know nothing, and have no knowledge outside of what they saw going on.

from what i understand, and what i have heard, nothing bad has been said about me. once the letter hits the p.o. today or tommorow, and its announced, that will change, and rumours will fly.

i have big shoulders. i can handle it.

i pity the person who repeats them back to me however.

they will be set straight right quick, and not very nicely.
if what they say isn't true.

if it is true, then so be it. its true. i'm not going to cower under a tree and hide.

its just a shame that it even happens, their speculation about what went wrong, and the reasons. when they have nothing to base it on. and even when they think they do.

more "love" from the christian congregation?

me don't think so

Unseen Apostate Directorate of North America
U.A.D.N.A.--Rhode Island

Cygnus

I am not sure. When I quit going to meetings, my wife went ahead and told everyone that I didn't believe it was the truth. So no rumors needed to be spread -- everyone already knew what was going on.

Then, I started attending another church and my wife took the pamphlets I brought home to the elders. The pastor of the church happened to be an ex Bethelite -- not any old Bethelite but someone who spent 40 years at Brooklyn and Toronto, roomed next to Ray Franz, etc. etc. (very cool guy by the way, I'm sure many of you know his name). So when they saw his name, they told me, "he is a known apostate." Maybe that stirred some rumors, I dunno.

Then 2 1/2 years later I finally got charged with my DFing offense -- "refusal to cease association with a disfellowshipped person." By then I had grown my hair down my back, got an earring, and obtained a flashy sports car. However, my wife moved back in with me after a 5 month separation, so I don't know if anyone thought I was being mischievious or not. During one of the judicial meetings an elder asked me if I had been unfaithful and I told him NO, but in any case it was none of his fucking business. LOL.

A very, VERY good JW friend of mine (who hasn't spoken to me in about 3.5 years) got married this past Sunday. He married the ex-wife of the DF'd guy I ended up getting DF'd for. My wife was invited to the wedding/reception, but not me. I can only imagine what might have been said. His brother, an inactive JW, who is also a very good friend of mine, who still keeps in contact with me, and has somehow avoided getting DF'd himself (he actually shared an apartment with my DF'd friend for 4 months), well, he called me yesterday to say the wedding went okay and he was sorry I couldn't be there and how people missed me not being there and how FUCKED UP (his words) the religion is. :) That tells me that a lot of people did not agree with my DFing, and that there might be hope that perhaps there might be hope still that this whole shunning business might be eventually coming to an end if the elders start listening to the publishers and their laments.

Especially since I got DF'd for a completely bullshit reason, and I think everyone knows it.

Rags

larc...why are you so defensive and why are you protecting the JW's and worried about their reputation getting tarnished? Because by not allowing Jerome to satisfy his curiousity and ask questions about certain things..you are acting just like all the JW's do in the congregation who dont allow you to question anything and tell you that this is the way it is and just accept it..Loosen up a bit will ya..?? I am Not trying to start a fight...i am new to the board and dont seem to understand your attitude....and it truly seems that you still have one of an authorative JW...
Please do some Splainin to me so i could better understand where your coming from if it seems that i misunderstood you...
Take Care

Rags

ozziepost

G'day Jerome,

I have just come across this thread and would like to clarify something. The way you write in your first post here seems to be from the vantage point of an outsider i.e. someone who was never a Dub. Am I correct in this assumption?

If you were never a Dub, it may explain Larc's indignation here, wouldn't it?

Cheers,
Ozzie

"If our hopes for peace are placed in the hands of imperfect people, they are bound to evaporate."

- Ron Hutchcraft Surviving the Storms of Stress

jerome

SYN

Wow the GB has manners. I dident know that.

Oh BTW how is Britney.

The Bible is a two edged sword wield it for evil and it you may get hurt.

jerome

Sometimes non-exwitnesses are unwelcome sometimes they are.

I really dont wanna get tide up in any politics of this board, flame wars etc.

I asked him to take any reservations with me outside the board to private e-mail.

That has been done.

BTW this seems to be a fairly nice topic going and I wouldent want it to go too much off course.

I just want to ask questions so I can get an idea of every aspect of the jw experience if that is ok with the board.

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The Bible is a two edged sword wield it for evil and it you may get hurt.

zev

I just want to ask questions so I can get an idea of every aspect of the jw experience if that is ok with the board.

absolutley!

bring it on, and welcome to our virtual world.

Unseen Apostate Directorate of North America
U.A.D.N.A.--Rhode Island

Rumors that they spread about you. When you left.

"If our hopes for peace are placed in the hands of imperfect people, they are bound to evaporate."

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