slimboyfat introduces some thoughtful views, particularly comparing jws with other churches growth. Fair enough too. The only discomfort Id suggest for the Watchtower is its own published hubristic claims about its superior growth rates and its virtual luxuriating in the demise of churches. Fact is, within church growth, and allowing for greater proportions of general populations not identifying any religious affiliation, evangelical groups, including pentecostals are burgeoning, leaving jw growth for dead. Plus, with increased immigration patterns, Moslem numbers in Western countries have virtually dwarved jw growth rates. Whilst jws are not alone, and could be said to be doing respectably, their days of exponential growth , that they praised themselves so highly about, are well behind them. Our fascination with numbers is a dubious legacy of jw self important crowing.