Does JESUS Have Wings?
by Cold Steel 39 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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THE GLADIATOR
Come on now, even the president has his Air Force 1 jet.
Jesus must have aquired his own private jet by now.
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designs
You don't remember Mighty Mouse
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caliber
Do Angels have wings or are they just represented that way ?
These inventions of man would have been given wings because in ancient times this was the only known way of flying and traveling swiftly. Of
course immortal powerful beings do not need wings to get around! The power of God the Almighty creator is not contained by rules of nature which
He has created! We see then in the Bible many instances of people that God teleports using his spirit or “power”. This should not surprise us – as we
have said God created everything we see around us. Science is a study of this creation and for the most part it has set rules which men can define
and examine.
I think "white wings " merely represent to man in the physical world , a message of swift and unearthly source which is pure and divine
Angels mistaken for men
We can see that angels were in the form of men because often they are described and mistaken for “men”. Consider these verses:
“And the angel of the LORD appeared unto the woman, and said unto her, Behold now, thou art barren, and bearest not: but thou shalt conceive, and bear a son… And Manoah arose, and went after his wife, and came to the man, and said unto him, Art thou the man that spakest unto the woman?” Judges 13:3+11
“And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground; And he said, Behold now, my lords, turn in, I pray you, into your servant’s house… But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter: And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them…” Genesis 19:1-5
If these angels then had huge wings how were they mistaken for mere men? They couldn’t of had wings!
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Amelia Ashton
They likely have retractable wings or else they would crash land onto the earth when on a visit
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caliber
They likely have retractable wings or else they would crash land onto the earth when on a visit
Don't forget they may have had "air brakes"
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designs
Retractable wings are ok but nothing beats really coool Capes, Mighty Mouse and Superman knew fashion.
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PSacramento
Not all angels appeared with wings.
The visions of the cherabims and seraphims had wings:
The word seraphim, literally "burning ones", transliterates a Hebrew plural noun; translation yields seraphs. The singular, "seraph", is more properly rendered saraph. The word saraph/seraphim appears three times in the Torah (Numbers 21:6-8, Deuteronomy 8:15) and four times in the Book of Isaiah (6:2-6, 14:29, 30:6). In Numbers and Deuteronomy the "seraphim" are serpents – the association of serpents as "burning ones" is possibly due to the burning sensation of the poison. [ 1 ] Isaiah also uses the word in close association with words to describe snakes (nachash, the generic word for snakes, in 14:29, and epheh, viper, in 30:6).
The Isaiah vision of seraphs in an idealised Jerusalem First Temple represents the sole instance in the Hebrew Bible of this word being used to describe celestial beings. [ 2 ] "... I saw the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up; and His train filled the Hekhal (sanctuary). Above him stood the Seraphim; each had six wings; with two he covered his face, and with two he covered his feet, and with two he flew." (Isaiah 6:1–3) The seraphim cry continually to each other, "Holy, holy, holy, is YHWH of hosts: the whole earth is full of His glory." (verses 2-3) One seraph then carries out an act of purification for the prophet by touching his lips with a live coal from the altar (verses 6-7). The text uses the word "seraphim" but adds no adjectives or modifiers emphasising snakes ("nahash," etc.). At the same time the description gives the creatures both human and avian attributes. A strong association with fire, though, is maintained. [ 3 ]
Seraphs appear in the 2nd century B.C. Book of Enoch [ 4 ] where they are designated as drakones (δρ?κονες "serpents"), and are mentioned, in conjunction with cherubs as the heavenly creatures standing nearest to the throne of God. In the late 1st century A.D. Book of Revelation (iv. 4-8) they are described as being forever in God's presence and praising him: "Day and night with out ceasing they sing: 'Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty, who was and is and is to come.'" They appear also in the Christian Gnostic text On the Origin of the World, described as "dragon-shaped angels". [ 5 ]
Cherubim first appear in the Bible in the Garden of Eden, to guard the way to the Tree of life. [ 1 ]
In Isaiah 37:16, Hezekiah prays, addressing Yahweh as "enthroned above the Cherubim" (referring to the mercy seat).
Cherubim feature at some length in the Book of Ezekiel. When they first appear in chapter one, when Ezekiel was "by the river Chebar", they are not called cherubim until chapter 10, but he saw "the likeness of four living creatures". (Ezekiel 1:5) Each of them had four faces and four wings, with straight feet with a sole like the sole of a calf's foot, and "hands of a man" under their wings. Each had four faces: The face of a man, the face of a lion on the right side, the face of an ox on the left side, and the face of an eagle. (Ezekiel 1:6-10)
In Ezekiel chapter ten, another full description of the Cherubim appears with slight differences in details. Three of the four faces are the same; man, lion and eagle; but where chapter one had the face of an ox, Ezekiel 10:14 says "face of a cherub". Ezekiel equates the Cherubim of chapter ten with the living creature of chapter one by saying: "This is the living creature (???) that I saw by the river of Chebar", in Ezekiel 10:15, and in Ezekiel 10:20 he said: "This is the living creature that I saw under the God of Israel by the river of Chebar; and I knew that they were the cherubim."
In a psalm of David that appears in 2 Samuel 22:11 and Psalms 18:10, David said that the L ORD "rode upon a cherub, and did fly: and he was seen upon the wings of the wind,".
The words Cherub and Cherubim appear many other times in the holy scriptures, referring to the Cherubim of beaten gold on the mercy seat of the Ark of the Covenant, and images on the curtains of the tabernacle, and in Solomon's temple, including two Cherubim made of olive wood overlaid with gold that were ten cubits high. [ 12 ]
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Amelia Ashton
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: ‘And now, lest he put forth his hand, and eat, and live forever.’ Therefore Jehovah God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, and he placed the cherubim, and the flame of a sword, to keep the way of the tree of life.
Cherubim guarded the Garden of Eden and the flame of a sword, which hadn't yet been invented! And they needed to eat from the tree of life or they would die, so they couldn't have been perfect or else why did they need to eat from the tree of life.
Why didn't God just chop the tree down, or perhaps the axe came even later.
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designs
The Eden scene was a learning lesson, in one fell swoop God teaches humans about angels fire and metalurgy.