Okay, Let Me Try It THIS Way....

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  • AGuest
    AGuest
    Why don't you just bump the first half dozen threads you posted about this subject?? This is annoying and getting pretty damned close to spam. Especially when you refer the first thread in this one. Ridiculous.

    Aw, Naeb, dear... c'mon, cut me some slack, K? I mean, this only the 3rd reference and the date is tomorrow. Give a girl a break? I have a JOB to do and I take it quite seriously. And besides, someone as young as you should NOT be getting annoyed over such a thing as someone else's post. My Lord knows there are plenty of more worthy things to be annoyed about these days. Look, I TRIED to keep it brief and only hooked in a link, so calm down or I might start to think you... ummmm... got 'issues' or sumthin'. Oh, and what the heck is 'bump'? Cause I have NO idea... Now, go chase a pretty girl (or ?) and live and let live...

    Dear, dear Seven... may you have peace as well... and I think you are a sweetheart, too. (I just didn't say so cause you have so many admirers that some might question my 'intention', which is purely innocent - LOL! But I think you are way cool.) Dear one, my message has nothing in common with the WTBTS in that theirs USES God and Christ as a smoke screen to get people (and their money) to follow, worship and serve THEM; mine simply refers you to God, through Christ. You don't have to GO anywhere, or do very much other than eat a little bit of unleavened bread, drink a sip of wine... love God... love your neighbor... and love your enemy... yada, yada, yada...

    I would like to clear up a little something, though, for you and many others, if I may:

    Yes, I am Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, and so my message is TO Israel (please take note of my greetings and disclaimers - thank you!)... and those that go with them. It is NOT, however, to much of what the world knows as 'christians', for simply professing to be a christian does not make one so. Also, my brothers have NOTHING against Buddhists, Muslims, atheists, agnostics, gnostics, etc. One of the mildest, dearest men I know is a Muslim. My son's closest friends (and therefore, surrogate sons of mine) are Buddhists, Shintoists, Taoists and Hindu. In fact, as Paul stated, "When people of the nations do BY NATURE the things of the law, they are a law unto themselves."

    Thus, Israel is not special simply BECAUSE they are Israel, dear one. And we were told that: it is not because we are a numerous people or because we are a righteous people or a good people... or ANYTHING like that. In fact, people of the nations, including other religions as you have listed here, have on many occasions proven themselve to be MORE righteous. No, it is only because of my Father's PROMISE to Abraham that He keeps calling us.

    The REASON for my 'message', though, Dave, and I find it curious that you and others don't SEE this, is that if Israel WERE good and righteous and 'clean'... and better... there would be no REASON to keep going back to them... again and again. There would be no REASON to admonish them to stop following earthling man and follow instead the Lamb that bought them. There would be no REASON to admonish them to STOP their hatred and their hypocrisy and LEARN LOVE. For if Israel knew all of these things... and followed them... there would be no NEED.

    But it is because Israel IS a CONTENTIOUS house (which is what their name "Israel" means, "Contender with God")... hard-headed, hard-hearted, STIFF-NECKED house, pious, self-assuming, haughty, knowing NOT love... but learning and teaching HATE... that I am sent and compelled to speak. To beg them to TURN AROUND... and come BACK. For even in the face of all of this, the Holy One of Israel, my Father and the Father of my Lord, JAH OF ARMIES... loves Israel still, for He loved Abraham, and they are his 'seed'.

    You said: "Love is not exclusive to your philosophy..." So, true, dear Dave, but it is SEVERLY lacking among those who PROFESS to 'belong' to Christ by means of an anointing with holy spirit. Wouldn't you agree? I can give you some examples - LOL! If, though, I claim to have love, but will not even bother warn such ones, my BROTHERS, and invite them to return, of what 'value' TRULY is such love? Is it not actually hypocritical, without substance and therefore of no value whatsoever? Something for you think about.

    Dear Saint, peace to you...and may I say, "Er!?" Well, yeah, okay. I mean, isn't everyone here? Using the board to promote something, from their selves to their believes and understandings? Isn't that the PURPOSE of the Board? And I am not looking for 'converts', dear one. That would mean I was looking for ones who followed one belief and trying to get them to follow another. No, I am speaking to those who love TRUTH... and as a result THOUGHT the WTBTS was the truth, taught the truth, spoke the truth... but found out different. Yet, I am speaking to those who STILL wish to KNOW the Truth. I am just telling them that what they THOUGHT they had and may now think they've lost... has not been lost at all. Not conversion, dear one, but a RETURN... to 'the love [they] had at first.'

    Lisa, girl, peace to you and your family!

    Log... peace, dear one... and thank you. SO much. For your constant loyalty and support. It is always there and I am grateful, you know this. You are always in my heart, and I will catch up with you soon. Please... hold on.

    Reckless, peace to you and you are 'dear' ones, because you are 'valuable' ones... to my Father, my Lord... and me.

    MavMan... peace to you... and check your email.

    To all of you, the greatest of love and peace to you, from my household to yours, if you receive it.

    YOUR servant and a slave of Christ,

    SJ

  • seven006
    seven006

    Dear, Dear Shelby, Shelby,

    Sometimes ya just gotta like someone cuz they are so damn nice. You and I will never agree on bible and god stuff. I take a little exception to you insinuating that my life has no value but, if I listened to every person who thinks they talk to God and thinks I am worthless because I do not, I'd have to sell tickets so people could watch the fire works. I like you even though you are in MY opinion somewhat delusional. At least you are not Like Robert and live with a constant gray cloud over your head.

    It doesn't matter what I think, just as long as you wake up in the morning with a smile on your face and you don't send anyone to bed at night crying.

    Tell God I said hi and ask him if I'm ever going to make any money on my Hollywood video stock. It's been in the toilet for over a year now. If he has any other good stock tips I would greatly appreciate the heads up.

    Big hug you crazy lady.

    Dave

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    SJ

    isn't everyone here? Using the board to promote something, from their selves to their believes and understandings? Isn't that the PURPOSE of the Board?
    I suppose
    And I am not looking for 'converts', dear one. That would mean I was looking for ones who followed one belief and trying to get them to follow another. No, I am speaking to those who love TRUTH... and as a result THOUGHT the WTBTS was the truth, taught the truth, spoke the truth... but found out different. Yet, I am speaking to those who STILL wish to KNOW the Truth. I am just telling them that what they THOUGHT they had and may now think they've lost... has not been lost at all. Not conversion, dear one, but a RETURN... to 'the love [they] had at first.'
    Aren't babies' mothers their first loves? Should they stop at that? Your centered around your hebrew speaking gods. Others may have been there, feeling a love for those gods. You would have them frozen at that stage forever. Doesn't infinite godness include those entities you profess, and much more?? It follows then that your way is not the ONLY way. Am i right or wrong?

    SS

  • AGuest
    AGuest
    I take a little exception to you insinuating that my life has no value...thinks I am worthless because I do not...

    Uhhhh, ho-KAY... hold on, there, Kemosabe... peace to YOU... and... ER?! I went back and reread what I posted and for the LIFE of me, I can't figure WHERE you got such an impression from me, that I think such a thing by ANY stretch of the imagination. Please... explain to me where you are coming from with that statement. Please.

    Your servant and a slave of Christ,

    SJ

    P.S. Re: Hollywood video stock: videos are OUT, dear one. Folks are returning to the movie theaters because they get to see a show... AND leave the house. Folks were gettin' cabin fever. Can you blame 'em? Invest in the theaters, Dave. Can't you see all of the current 'multiplex' construction going on everywhere? They ain't puttin' up to 25 screens in one building for nuthin'! (And I didn't have to ask God on that one: just used my PHYSICAL eyes... and common sense.)

    P.S.S. Ummm, and I want my 'cut' when you hit it big, too! LOL! No, seriously, JAH takes very good care of me... I 'lack' nothing. Peace!

  • Will Power
    Will Power

    I love this line 7

    ......It doesn't matter what I think, just as long as you wake up in the morning with a smile on your face and you don't send anyone to bed at night crying.........

  • seven006
    seven006

    Will Power,

    I came up with that one years ago when my boys were asking some questions about religion and girls.
    If you can do one of them, the other just seems to follow.
    Life can be so simple at times.

    Dave

  • AGuest
    AGuest

    Ahh, dear Saint... peace to you...

    Aren't babies' mothers their first loves?
    For the most part, I would say yes. But certainly not always. Surely, you know that.

    Should they stop at that?
    Well, heck no. I mean, there might be a dad, some siblings, grandma, grandpa, neighbors, schoolmates... and 'special' teacher... etc., etc.

    But does loving these mean the baby has to... or SHOULD... stop loving the mother? What if someone deceived the baby into leaving the mother (say an 'inexperienced' CPS worker, working for 'the system', who... ummm... said they 'had the child's "best interests" at heart): should the mother, after losing the child, give up the search? Never look for the child or send out envoys?

    Okay, say the mother finds the child... shouldn't the mother at least give the child a CHOICE as to whether they wish to return to HER... or remain with the foster family... or even move on to another family? Or should the mother just 'let go'?

    Your centered around your hebrew speaking gods.
    Yeah, and...?

    Others may have been there, feeling a love for those gods.
    Yes, true.

    You would have them frozen at that stage forever.
    MOI?! Never may that happen! Others had them "frozen", dear Saint... in fear. I'm just trying to help 'thaw' that fear out a little, that's all.

    Doesn't infinite godness include those entities you profess, and much more??
    The truth? Yes... and no. Those entities ARE infinite goodness, and that goodness can be reflected by, in, and from... us. While we right now bear the 'image' of Adam, sinful and therefore imperfect... and sometimes hateful... flesh... we CAN bear the 'image' of those entities: infinite goodness. Which is borne out, dear one, in love. Haven't you been listening to what I've been saying? LOL!

    It follows then that your way is not the ONLY way.
    "My" way. Oh, lordy, Saint, if you knew me you would know just how right you are. MY way... would most probably get us all 'kilt' (black for 'killed'). Why? Cause I am imperfect, impetuous, sometimes naive, sometimes unkind, sometimes impatient, irritating... need I go on?

    Am i right or wrong?
    You are QUITE right, for MY way... would lead you nowhere. There is, however, another's Way. And it is of him that I speak.

    John 14:6

    Oh... you done? Well, okay, then... peace.

    A slave of Christ,

    SJ

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    John14:6 jesus is the way, truth etc. This is exactly the type of thought i had in mind when i posed the following questions. So here they are again.

    Your centered around your hebrew speaking gods. Others may have been there, feeling a love for those gods. You would have them frozen at that stage forever. Doesn't infinite godness include those entities you profess, and much more?? It follows then that your way is not the ONLY way. Am i right or wrong?
    SS
  • Satanus
    Satanus

    SJ

    No, I am speaking to those who love TRUTH... and as a result THOUGHT the WTBTS was the truth, taught the truth, spoke the truth... but found out different. Yet, I am speaking to those who STILL wish to KNOW the Truth.
    Do you think jesus has the monopoly on truth? Could there be truths coming from krishna, buddha, terrence mckenna, zeroster, enoch, bill moyers, opra winfrey, joe blow, dick, jane, sally, etc??

    SS

  • AGuest
    AGuest
    Could there be truths coming from krishna, buddha, terrence mckenna, zeroster, enoch, bill moyers, opra winfrey, joe blow, dick, jane, sally, etc??

    Hmmmm... I dunno. I mean, I don't 'know' these folks, so I can't venture to say what come 'from' them. Lemme ask you: could there? Rather, IS there? If so, is it THEIRS? Or is it, like, say, Oprah (who seems to always get HER 'truth' from someone else, say, Dr. Phil - these days - or previously Iyanla and Maya...)

    Peace, Saint. Still.

    A slave of Christ,

    SJ

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