Jeremiah Source Material

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  • Bobcat
    Bobcat

    Chapter 12, P. 146, par. 14

    Discussion of Jeremiah 23:6, "Jehovah is our Righteousness." See thread here.

  • Bobcat
    Bobcat

    Jer 23:19, 20 - Question about this verse. See thread here.

  • Bobcat
    Bobcat

    Jeremiah 5:8, the NWT rendering. See here.

  • Bobcat
    Bobcat

    Page 167, par. 25

    'We are not prophets' - See thread here.

  • konceptual99
    konceptual99

    So are there any more quotes that are more recent than 1972 where the society has said they are prophets?

  • AnnOMaly
    AnnOMaly

    w08 7/15 p. 11 par. 17 Meeting the Challenges of the House-to-House Ministry

    Although many today disregard our preaching work, they will soon come to view it in a different light. (Matt. 24:37-39) Jehovah assured Ezekiel that when the judgments he proclaimed came true, the rebellious house of Israel would “certainly know also that a prophet himself happened to be in the midst of them.” (Ezek. 2:5) Similarly, when God carries out his judgments against the present system of things, people will be forced to recognize that the message Jehovah’s Witnesses preached in public places and from house to house actually originated with the one true God, Jehovah, and that the Witnesses really did serve as his representatives.

    w91 3/15 p. 11 par. 14 Jehovah’s Celestial Chariot on the Move

    But who is pictured by the prophet Ezekiel? From the facts of history, it is evident that the body of spirit-anointed Witnesses of Jehovah has been associated with the celestial chariot. Thus, Ezekiel well pictures the anointed remnant of Jehovah’s Witnesses since 1919.

  • Bobcat
    Bobcat

    As a side thought to Ann's post, the WT's coined phrase, "anointed remnant," is pure nonsense, built on the false idea of there only being a few "anointed Christians" among many so-called "non-anointed Christian companions," and a misuse of the term "remaining ones" from Revelation 12:17.

    Acts 2:38, 39 says that God calls prospective Christians to 'repent and be baptized in the name of Christ.' And if they accept that 'calling,' they are 'given the free gift of the spirit.'

    In distorted WT-speak, all are called to 'repent and be baptized.' But after that, only a very few are given the free gift of the spirit. So the WT stands at the doors, so to speak, and confiscates the free gift that all are supposed to be given.

    But back to "anointed remnant," the WT draws the "remnant" part from their reading of Revelation 12:17, "remaining ones." But the word rendered "remaining" in Rev 12:17 does not mean the same as english "remnant." "Remnant" in english refers to a few leftovers. "Remaining ones" in Rev 12:17 means "the rest," and most often in Revelation means the majority (the only exception being 8:13, where it is 3/7s).

    Here are all the occurances in Revelation: 2:24; 3:2; 8:13; 9:20; 11:13; 12:17; 19:21; 20:5.

    In 2:24 and 3:2 its hard to tell percentage wise how many 'the rest' / 'remaining' are.

    In 8:13 it is 3/7s.

    In 9:20 it is 2/3s.

    In 11:13 it is 9/10s.

    In 19:21 and 20:5 it is the vast majority.

    If you ever get a chance to peruse a Greek concordance, you'll see that throughout the NT the word (especially when speaking of people) is usually, if not always, used to refer to the majority. Thus, in Rev 12:15-17, the dragon's 'flood' only succeeds in killing some of the woman's seed. So he goes off to wage war with the majority who survived his 'flood.'

    The WT tosses around the term "anointed remnant" because for all practical purposes it means "Us, the GB, your leaders, to whom everyone else owes allegience." Yet there is not a lick of Biblical support for their phrase. If there were only a "remnant of anointed Christians" left, then the prophecy Paul cited in Galatians 4:27 (quoting from Isa 54:1) would have miserably failed.

  • AnnOMaly
    AnnOMaly

    Well, I guess the Ezekiel-->prophet-->watchman class-->anointed remnant of JWs is old hat now anyway.

    It'll now be more like Ezekiel-->prophet-->watchman class-->GB.

    Point still stands. The 'anointed' movers and shakers at the top of the JW hierarchy act as if they are accurately representing God's spirit-directed messages to them, and those messages are filtering through to the r&f for them to disseminate to the rest of the world.

  • konceptual99
    konceptual99

    Thanks Ann.

  • Bobcat
    Bobcat

    Page 55

    Thread that links to a YouTube video of Dr. Eliat Mazar. See here.

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