by irondork 23 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
Actually, its a continuum. It starts at one end w the hyper hetero, goes toward the middle, if you wanna call it that, w the bisexual, and then the homosexual on the other end of the spectrum. In other words, the levels of male to female hormones in men vary. Other factors are at play, as well, of course. The wt prefers to ignore science, biology and socialogy on this subject - dark ages religion.
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Chicken Little, I found that book on Amazon. I'll check it out.
Thanks.
I see you looked up the article after our conversation.
When I read it, it made me want to kill myself. After I stopped feeling that way, I realized what an insulting load of shit it really is.
It is now going on three years since I severed any and all ties with the WTS. During this time the only information I have regarding its stance on LGBT issues has been through this forum. That small amount of exposure has helped me realize that regardless of how much the outside world may change its thinking on homosexuality, the WTS will never do so.
This is no organization that any LGBT person should want to have anything to do with. Its leaders are willfully and deliberately ignorant about the issues involved. What I find especially strange about this is that for decades there has been a small gay community which has existed at the Brooklyn headquarters despite repeated efforts to root it out and destroy it. You’d think that its continued existence under the very nose of the Governing Body would give the organization’s leaders a clue about the true nature of some of the men (not all of whom are young or “in the bloom of youth”) they have recruited to serve there.
I feel for LGBT people who are still trapped in the cult. Presently I am trying to help a very close gay friend of some 25 years to realize he has no future with Jehovah’s Witnesses and that he should walk away. It has been an arduous struggle and I am by no means certain of success. If a mature gay man finds it difficult to leave, I can only imagine how much more difficult it would be for a younger person to do so. Still, I continue my efforts and the information which irondork and others have shared here give me every reason to do so.
Quendi
I used to think I could be accepted, but when I came out a few days ago, the first thing they told me is that I WASN'T GAY. I found it to be insulting.
Agree, Magotan, it is insulting.
I'm glad you've come to see the control and propaganda for what is is, and that makes you free.
Retro
@ Magotan: Yeah, I found it. It was disgusting. They have really gone out of their way to cast gays and lesbians as having no legitimacy. We are non-entities and therefore due no acknowledgement or respect.
@ Quendi: You're right. That organization is a toxic, hateful environment for anyone GLBT. Don't give up on your friend.
King David was a murdering barstard and yet Jehovah loved him. King David also loved Jonathan more than a woman. If being gay is fine for King David then its fine for Jehovah and fine for everyone.
King David also loved Jonathan more than a woman.
That doesn't necessarily mean they were in a homosexual relationship.
It is possible to love someone a lot without being sexually attracted to that person.
Also David had so many women that probably he had less time to have a meaningful relationship with any one of them, leaving him in a situation where his emotional needs found an outlet with a male friend.
As for whether he also found a sexual outlet with that male friend, I would ask why we would think that likely given his extravagant heterosexual energies, (energies that led him to have Uriah killed).
