Flawed Heroes (page 2)

transhuman68

I think we all need heroes- at least when we are young. But maybe it is a sign of maturity to be able to accept the whole truth about people; that sometimes successful people can be crazy, too.

Whenever I think of that word I can't help but hear the character Hawkeye from Mash in my head. during one of the episodes a sniper is shooting up the mash camp, but they are a hospital so they have to call for support and in the meantime they just take cover. hawkeye finally decides he is going to do something about the sniper and frank says to him something like, you want to be a hero go ahead i'll be in here. and hawkeye says, frank, do you know what a hero is? a hero is someone that is cold enough, and tired enough, and hungry enough not to give a damn, i don't give a damn.

happy@last

Everyone who makes it through today despite adversity is a hero. The trouble is, putting someone on a pedestal doesn't change the fact they are still human and may have had words of wisdom some days, they sure would have had failings other days.

cptkirk

what? but it feels so good to judge people, makes me feel so brawny. i mean, do you have any idea how orgasmic it is to send private messages to people and tell them ohh no do not talk to so and so we judged them(here look at this thread)...oh yea f%%% that person lol, thanks for the heads up-- that moment = glory, better than sex. it is the opium for people who can't stand on their own two feet nor are able to make their own decisions in life. socialism! :p

cptkirk

I apologize for being so sarcastic ....let people just stand or fall on their own though. and i don't mean let someone starve to death or die on the side of the road, but as far as figuring life out... there are always going to be stupid people. i'm sure alan alda still gets mail 30 years later with people asking if he would perform their heart surgery for them.....or if father mulcahey will bless their new born son.....

jgnat

Following the same theme, kptkirk, Richard Hooker, author of the original book, MASH, was critical of the television show.

sabastious

People have the capacity to do the right thing for the wrong reasons. Think about someone opening a door for someone else. The intention could be to help another person, but it also could be because the person opening the door is merely keeping up appearances. Even though the events appear exactly the same, one is much more shallow than the other.

-Sab

jgnat

I am thinking, for the smooth operation of civilization, sab, that the motive is not nearly as important as the result. If a robbery is foiled because a criminal is spooked by onlookers, or because the criminal has been successfully rehabilitated, the result is the same. The family is not robbed.

Just to be contrary, I think that the means does matter. For instance, I would like to see the WTS fall, but not at the cost of civil rights. The enemy of my enemy is NOT my friend.

jgnat

Talk about successful-crazy, transhuman, how about Howard Hughes? I don't buy so much in to the monetary definition of success. The people who inspire me are moved by altruism, and their success is in fundamentally changing society for good. Ideas like hygiene in hospitals or humane treatment of soldiers.

wasblind

The people who inspire me are moved by altruism, and their success is in fundamentally changing society for good. Ideas like hygiene in hospitals or humane treatment of soldiers._______jnat

I totally agree

But in Alberts case I think he became a bit unhinged thinkin' he could atone

for the sins of the white europeans who committed sins against blacks in africa

I don't know his of his religious beliefs, but it seems as if he took on the roll of Jesus

and thought that his sacrifice alone would be the answer

Flawed hero indeed

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